Father done after 61 years clean driving
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My 79 year old father got Talivaned for 61 miles per hour on a main country road , he was adamant he wasn't speeding at first but turns out it was an NSL with the limit now lowered to 50.
Not only are these reduced limits a pain for us all on a personal basis, but I read something like that for every mile or two traffic goes slower (nationally) we lose a billion or two from the economy, this is incredible, whilst every life lost on the road is tragic, losing this amount of money or even a fraction of it means huge loses in tax revenue , money needed for NHS and other essential life saving service , as well as alleviating hardship for lots of people.
Got to get limits back up to previous limits or maybe even higher where appropriate
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>> Edited by JumJum on Thursday 12th January 01:53
Not only are these reduced limits a pain for us all on a personal basis, but I read something like that for every mile or two traffic goes slower (nationally) we lose a billion or two from the economy, this is incredible, whilst every life lost on the road is tragic, losing this amount of money or even a fraction of it means huge loses in tax revenue , money needed for NHS and other essential life saving service , as well as alleviating hardship for lots of people.
Got to get limits back up to previous limits or maybe even higher where appropriate
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>> Edited by JumJum on Thursday 12th January 01:53
This sorry state of affairs illustrates perfectly how absolutely f
g disgraceful life on the roads has become under this pretence of a government and its ethically fluid minions. Under the guise of safety, a man driving safely all his motoring life is driving safely and meets a Talivan when instant injustice is meted out. An upright citizen is criminalised by 'the system' in pursuit of its bankrupt ideology, and some tax. It is simply fg unacceptable. Let's hope there's time for pepipoo / ABD / SafeSpeed to sort it.
B@st@rds.
g disgraceful life on the roads has become under this pretence of a government and its ethically fluid minions. Under the guise of safety, a man driving safely all his motoring life is driving safely and meets a Talivan when instant injustice is meted out. An upright citizen is criminalised by 'the system' in pursuit of its bankrupt ideology, and some tax. It is simply fg unacceptable. Let's hope there's time for pepipoo / ABD / SafeSpeed to sort it. B@st@rds.
turbobloke said:
This sorry state of affairs illustrates perfectly how absolutely f
B@st@rds.
Couldn't agree more.
The system is a total shambles when the vast majority of people being caught and punished are those that are driving completely safely. My blood boils when I see these bastard camera vans.
JumJum said:
My 79 year old father got Talivaned for 61 miles per hour on a main country road , he was adamant he wasn't speeding at first but turns out it was an NSL with the limit now lowered to 50.
Not only are these reduced limits a pain for us all on a personal basis, but I read something like that for every mile or two traffic goes slower (nationally) we lose a billion or two from the economy, this is incredible, whilst every life lost on the road is tragic, losing this amount of money or even a fraction of it means huge loses in tax revenue , money needed for NHS and other essential life saving service , as well as alleviating hardship for lots of people.
Got to get limits back up to previous limits or maybe even higher where appropriate.
>> Edited by JumJum on Thursday 12th January 01:53
My sympathies to your dad, I'm sure my day is due sooner or later. Could be argued he should have been looking at the signs and not at the road!
dogwatch said:I disagree, the dangers come from the road, not signs. Who's to say it was even signed correctly? My instructor always taught me to keep my eyes outside the car.
My 79 year old father got Talivaned for 61 miles per hour on a main country road , he was adamant he wasn't speeding at first but turns out it was an NSL with the limit now lowered to 50.
Not only are these reduced limits a pain for us all on a personal basis, but I read something like that for every mile or two traffic goes slower (nationally) we lose a billion or two from the economy, this is incredible, whilst every life lost on the road is tragic, losing this amount of money or even a fraction of it means huge loses in tax revenue , money needed for NHS and other essential life saving service , as well as alleviating hardship for lots of people.
Got to get limits back up to previous limits or maybe even higher where appropriate.
>> Edited by JumJum on Thursday 12th January 01:53
My sympathies to your dad, I'm sure my day is due sooner or later. Could be argued he should have been looking at the signs and not at the road!
BliarOut said:I think there may have been some small element of sarcasm implied in that post.
My 79 year old father got Talivaned for 61 miles per hour on a main country road , he was adamant he wasn't speeding at first but turns out it was an NSL with the limit now lowered to 50.
Not only are these reduced limits a pain for us all on a personal basis, but I read something like that for every mile or two traffic goes slower (nationally) we lose a billion or two from the economy, this is incredible, whilst every life lost on the road is tragic, losing this amount of money or even a fraction of it means huge loses in tax revenue , money needed for NHS and other essential life saving service , as well as alleviating hardship for lots of people.
Got to get limits back up to previous limits or maybe even higher where appropriate.
>> Edited by JumJum on Thursday 12th January 01:53
My sympathies to your dad, I'm sure my day is due sooner or later. Could be argued he should have been looking at the signs and not at the road!
turbobloke said:
This sorry state of affairs illustrates perfectly how absolutely f
B@st@rds.
Yep, they're not catching the dangerous driver. (They might catch you if you take one hand off the steering wheel though - ignore the changing gear bit...)
ing ar$seholes.Perhaps your father has got to the age where he is losing some of his powers of observation if he failed to notice the 50 limit on a correctly signed road?
Aren't these exactly the sort of people who ought to be caught by the Criminal Justice sytstem and given a very gentle reminder?
No offence meant to you or your father, but just want to put the other point of view.
Aren't these exactly the sort of people who ought to be caught by the Criminal Justice sytstem and given a very gentle reminder?
No offence meant to you or your father, but just want to put the other point of view.
7db said:
Perhaps your father has got to the age where he is losing some of his powers of observation if he failed to notice the 50 limit on a correctly signed road?
Aren't these exactly the sort of people who ought to be caught by the Criminal Justice sytstem and given a very gentle reminder?
No offence meant to you or your father, but just want to put the other point of view.
Disagree....no problems at all with our more experienced drivers doing 60mph in what they think is a national speed limit. It's the ones that do 35mph regardless that need reminding of their frailties.
There's a short strip of road near my house which has just changed from 60 NSL to 30.
To be fair it is a bit of an anomaly ans has been since I have lived here but that is not the point.
Previously the strip between a junction and the star of the housing area on a back road was an unlit 2 lane track - not very wide. No footpath and quite a high number of pedestrians for one reason or another.
Because a new distribution park is being built the junction has been changed to a roundabout in the last few months (they must have got that wrong as they are about to carry out some 'mandatory road widening!) and that shortened further the already short straight section of road and the length that was NSL. Still, the new NSL signs weere installed to cover the distance - about 200 or 300 meters. Meantime a footpath/cycleway was added. Most people, especially the runners, seem to ignore that. And then they added lampposts. Right at the edne of the narrow road between the tarmac and the ditch. One side only.
At that point it became a lighted road and therefore a 30 limit applies - so they covered the NSL signs, though the signs and the poles are still there. And of course the locals who have been using the road for years still travel at the sort of speeds they used to - it's easily done - anywhere up to 40 or more. Sadly the 'can I get to 70 before I reach the houses' trial has not been viable or entertaining since the roundabout was built.
So, with the advent of the local scamera van on the roads in the village at, apparently, the behest of local people (did I hear someone say busybodies? I fully expect they will use that stretch as a turkey shoot sooner or later. Especially since the direction from the housing to the roundabout starts off down hill ...
This country is becoming ever more a sad place to live.
To be fair it is a bit of an anomaly ans has been since I have lived here but that is not the point.
Previously the strip between a junction and the star of the housing area on a back road was an unlit 2 lane track - not very wide. No footpath and quite a high number of pedestrians for one reason or another.
Because a new distribution park is being built the junction has been changed to a roundabout in the last few months (they must have got that wrong as they are about to carry out some 'mandatory road widening!) and that shortened further the already short straight section of road and the length that was NSL. Still, the new NSL signs weere installed to cover the distance - about 200 or 300 meters. Meantime a footpath/cycleway was added. Most people, especially the runners, seem to ignore that. And then they added lampposts. Right at the edne of the narrow road between the tarmac and the ditch. One side only.
At that point it became a lighted road and therefore a 30 limit applies - so they covered the NSL signs, though the signs and the poles are still there. And of course the locals who have been using the road for years still travel at the sort of speeds they used to - it's easily done - anywhere up to 40 or more. Sadly the 'can I get to 70 before I reach the houses' trial has not been viable or entertaining since the roundabout was built.
So, with the advent of the local scamera van on the roads in the village at, apparently, the behest of local people (did I hear someone say busybodies? I fully expect they will use that stretch as a turkey shoot sooner or later. Especially since the direction from the housing to the roundabout starts off down hill ...
This country is becoming ever more a sad place to live.
turbobloke said:
This sorry state of affairs illustrates perfectly how absolutely f
B@st@rds.
Yup, all at the cost of REAL road safety and police presence.
Someone somewhere is probably dead in a car accident due to a tit head in a stolen car, or some un-tested driver, or a drunkard/drugged up driver, that simply doesn't register on the "safety camera" monitor.
The more the police helped along by the partnerships keep all their eggs in one basket, the more people will loose their lives. Thank god car safety is increasing to offset the inability of the current road safety policy!
Still, the guy giving the V is now vidicating the scamera's ability to catch dangerous drivers
Sick
ing country. I really have given up with Plod after seeing them out and about with scamera's recently on what I would call the safest roads around. Why waste time doing that to little or no effect except income, when a rolling deterrent around some urban 30's where speeding really matters would go a long way. They might even catch a real criminal too, robbing some poor pensioner, or breaking into a car or similar Get bent over and pay taxes for bugger all good, then get bent over again when we all get criminalised...
Dave
Mr Whippy said:
Sick
Get bent over and pay taxes for bugger all good, then get bent over again when we all get criminalised...Dave
Some might say we don't know enough about the specifics. We-ell...
If someone thinks something is homophobic, it's homophobic
If someone thinks something is racist, it's racist
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If someone thinks talivans and gatsos are a f
g disgraceful dash for cash motorist rip-off based on a lie about safety under mountains of spin from political car haters - they are.
A 79 year old doing 60 odd . He should be congratulated, not admonished. I think you should tell your dad to deregister himself and nick someones number plates. That way he can join the other million and a half who do the same, but at his age he's not going to drive anti-socially and they won't throw him in jail. (mind you, they do throw old'uns in jail for not paying tax, don't they). Just tell him to make sure he's paid for his tax disc then. He can do what he likes so long as he's paid his tax!
Until we have hordes of drivers in stolen cars marauding the countryside with sufficient manpower and petrol to destroy the talivan they will not stop. The stalinists absolutely have to destroy the car before they can impose their control on the majority. We must organise soon and ruthlessly destroy them.
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