time off work to go to Dr
Discussion
russian rocket said:
do you have a right to take time off work to go to the doctors.
Don't think so
russian rocket said:
I thought you did, a lot of companies wont let employees out
Depends on your company - mine's ok with it, but then I don't take the p155
russian rocket said:
a quick quote of the relevent "legislation" would be helpful please
Don't think there is any.
{edited to add:} I'm pretty sure things are different for maternity-related appointments, i.e. they have to be allowed.
>> Edited by pdV6 on Friday 20th January 09:46
we're allowed 2hrs at a time for DR, dentists, etc, but if you know you're going to be away longer, we have a form you can take with you that the DR signs to show what time you left them, and then get paid for it.
in reality, most people try to make the appointment for after lunch, and then go, and not come back until the next day.
in reality, most people try to make the appointment for after lunch, and then go, and not come back until the next day.
There is no exact legislation, but it is a commonly understod legal concept that you are only legally obliged to pay staff for time they have worked.
The exception for this is maternity issues such as ante natal care which you have to allow time off for.
As an employer myself, it depends on the situation. Legally, an employer has no need to pay staff when they are not there, and indeed if they are contracted to work during that time then they legally should be there.
In practice though, if it were an emergency appointment for example, and it may be something which could worsen, giving someone an hour off would be better than a few days the next week...
The other practical issue is that if you dont give someone the time off to go to the doctor, that that day would develop into 'sickness' anyway.
There is a problem though, and it depends how you have dealt with it in the past. If you are lenient with an emergency appointment, this may be seen as weakness, and the next dental checkup will be sceduled so that the employee must leave at 3pm, and 'there would be no point coming back after that (?)'
I would send a memo to all employees explaining that it is not acceptable to book doctor/dentist appointments within work time without prior permission.
The exception for this is maternity issues such as ante natal care which you have to allow time off for.
As an employer myself, it depends on the situation. Legally, an employer has no need to pay staff when they are not there, and indeed if they are contracted to work during that time then they legally should be there.
In practice though, if it were an emergency appointment for example, and it may be something which could worsen, giving someone an hour off would be better than a few days the next week...
The other practical issue is that if you dont give someone the time off to go to the doctor, that that day would develop into 'sickness' anyway.
There is a problem though, and it depends how you have dealt with it in the past. If you are lenient with an emergency appointment, this may be seen as weakness, and the next dental checkup will be sceduled so that the employee must leave at 3pm, and 'there would be no point coming back after that (?)'
I would send a memo to all employees explaining that it is not acceptable to book doctor/dentist appointments within work time without prior permission.
justinp1 said:
There is no exact legislation, but it is a commonly understod legal concept that you are only legally obliged to pay staff for time they have worked.
The exception for this is maternity issues such as ante natal care which you have to allow time off for.
As an employer myself, it depends on the situation. Legally, an employer has no need to pay staff when they are not there, and indeed if they are contracted to work during that time then they legally should be there.
In practice though, if it were an emergency appointment for example, and it may be something which could worsen, giving someone an hour off would be better than a few days the next week...
The other practical issue is that if you dont give someone the time off to go to the doctor, that that day would develop into 'sickness' anyway.
There is a problem though, and it depends how you have dealt with it in the past. If you are lenient with an emergency appointment, this may be seen as weakness, and the next dental checkup will be sceduled so that the employee must leave at 3pm, and 'there would be no point coming back after that (?)'
I would send a memo to all employees explaining that it is not acceptable to book doctor/dentist appointments within work time without prior permission.
I have an eye infection. It came on last night and if it's not treated quickly I'm in agony. It occurs probably once a year and I need a prescription for the ointment that cures it. So, I rang the GP first thing and went this morning. Now I've got the ointment it'll be cleared up by Monday. If I hadn't gone to the GP I would be in agony and stand the chance of permanent damage to my eyesight.
As an employer, how would you handle that situation?
BliarOut said:
There is no exact legislation, but it is a commonly understod legal concept that you are only legally obliged to pay staff for time they have worked.
The exception for this is maternity issues such as ante natal care which you have to allow time off for.
As an employer myself, it depends on the situation. Legally, an employer has no need to pay staff when they are not there, and indeed if they are contracted to work during that time then they legally should be there.
In practice though, if it were an emergency appointment for example, and it may be something which could worsen, giving someone an hour off would be better than a few days the next week...
The other practical issue is that if you dont give someone the time off to go to the doctor, that that day would develop into 'sickness' anyway.
There is a problem though, and it depends how you have dealt with it in the past. If you are lenient with an emergency appointment, this may be seen as weakness, and the next dental checkup will be sceduled so that the employee must leave at 3pm, and 'there would be no point coming back after that (?)'
I would send a memo to all employees explaining that it is not acceptable to book doctor/dentist appointments within work time without prior permission.
I have an eye infection. It came on last night and if it's not treated quickly I'm in agony. It occurs probably once a year and I need a prescription for the ointment that cures it. So, I rang the GP first thing and went this morning. Now I've got the ointment it'll be cleared up by Monday. If I hadn't gone to the GP I would be in agony and stand the chance of permanent damage to my eyesight.
As an employer, how would you handle that situation?
When I've been in the position of managing staff with problems like that, I've considered it a non-issue.
You need a day off once a year for a pre-existing condition? Not a problem.
The issue arises where there are idiot policies in place that prevent management from using common sense, or occasionally that the management themselves are idiots.
The problem happens when people take the piss, if someone's overall ilness record is very low, its not a problem. If someone pulls a sicky every monday, it is a problem....
[quote=TheLemming
When I've been in the position of managing staff with problems like that, I've considered it a non-issue.
You need a day off once a year for a pre-existing condition? Not a problem.
The issue arises where there are idiot policies in place that prevent management from using common sense, or occasionally that the management themselves are idiots.
The problem happens when people take the piss, if someone's overall ilness record is very low, its not a problem. If someone pulls a sicky every monday, it is a problem....[/quote]
Absolutly right. Its the exceptions that take the piss which flux it for everyone else and turns employers into untrusting, selfpreserving, by the book, lovely people we are.
Once shafted, you make sure you dont get shafted again.
When I've been in the position of managing staff with problems like that, I've considered it a non-issue.
You need a day off once a year for a pre-existing condition? Not a problem.
The issue arises where there are idiot policies in place that prevent management from using common sense, or occasionally that the management themselves are idiots.
The problem happens when people take the piss, if someone's overall ilness record is very low, its not a problem. If someone pulls a sicky every monday, it is a problem....[/quote]
Absolutly right. Its the exceptions that take the piss which flux it for everyone else and turns employers into untrusting, selfpreserving, by the book, lovely people we are.
Once shafted, you make sure you dont get shafted again.
TheLemming said:
There is no exact legislation, but it is a commonly understod legal concept that you are only legally obliged to pay staff for time they have worked.
The exception for this is maternity issues such as ante natal care which you have to allow time off for.
As an employer myself, it depends on the situation. Legally, an employer has no need to pay staff when they are not there, and indeed if they are contracted to work during that time then they legally should be there.
In practice though, if it were an emergency appointment for example, and it may be something which could worsen, giving someone an hour off would be better than a few days the next week...
The other practical issue is that if you dont give someone the time off to go to the doctor, that that day would develop into 'sickness' anyway.
There is a problem though, and it depends how you have dealt with it in the past. If you are lenient with an emergency appointment, this may be seen as weakness, and the next dental checkup will be sceduled so that the employee must leave at 3pm, and 'there would be no point coming back after that (?)'
I would send a memo to all employees explaining that it is not acceptable to book doctor/dentist appointments within work time without prior permission.
I have an eye infection. It came on last night and if it's not treated quickly I'm in agony. It occurs probably once a year and I need a prescription for the ointment that cures it. So, I rang the GP first thing and went this morning. Now I've got the ointment it'll be cleared up by Monday. If I hadn't gone to the GP I would be in agony and stand the chance of permanent damage to my eyesight.
As an employer, how would you handle that situation?
When I've been in the position of managing staff with problems like that, I've considered it a non-issue.
You need a day off once a year for a pre-existing condition? Not a problem.
The issue arises where there are idiot policies in place that prevent management from using common sense, or occasionally that the management themselves are idiots.
The problem happens when people take the piss, if someone's overall ilness record is very low, its not a problem. If someone pulls a sicky every monday, it is a problem....
Bing, correct answer
I'm not off work, I've only had half a day off in about fifteen years. I went to the doc, got the cure and came back. Flexibliity works both ways.
BliarOut said:
There is no exact legislation, but it is a commonly understod legal concept that you are only legally obliged to pay staff for time they have worked.
The exception for this is maternity issues such as ante natal care which you have to allow time off for.
As an employer myself, it depends on the situation. Legally, an employer has no need to pay staff when they are not there, and indeed if they are contracted to work during that time then they legally should be there.
In practice though, if it were an emergency appointment for example, and it may be something which could worsen, giving someone an hour off would be better than a few days the next week...
The other practical issue is that if you dont give someone the time off to go to the doctor, that that day would develop into 'sickness' anyway.
There is a problem though, and it depends how you have dealt with it in the past. If you are lenient with an emergency appointment, this may be seen as weakness, and the next dental checkup will be sceduled so that the employee must leave at 3pm, and 'there would be no point coming back after that (?)'
I would send a memo to all employees explaining that it is not acceptable to book doctor/dentist appointments within work time without prior permission.
I have an eye infection. It came on last night and if it's not treated quickly I'm in agony. It occurs probably once a year and I need a prescription for the ointment that cures it. So, I rang the GP first thing and went this morning. Now I've got the ointment it'll be cleared up by Monday. If I hadn't gone to the GP I would be in agony and stand the chance of permanent damage to my eyesight.
As an employer, how would you handle that situation?
Of course, that would be a no brainer. Being fair about the subject and allowing discretion allows genuine reasons through, whilst as a front does not allow people to take the p1ss.
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