Parking nuisance?
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Joe911

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265 months

Sunday 29th January 2006
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My (small) office building is in a residential area - and the locals like to park blocking access to our parking spaces and driveway.

Where does the law stand on this?
Can we get them reported/towed?
What other measures are at our disposal?

There is one bloke in particular that is a persistent offender.

Clearly - asking nicely and getting an amicable arrangement would be ideal, but failing that, what can we do?


>> Edited by Joe911 on Sunday 29th January 23:25

timsta

2,779 posts

276 months

Sunday 29th January 2006
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*If you have a dropped pave* then next time he is there drop a call to the local station, they should ticket/remove/whatever.

mhussa

93 posts

273 months

Monday 30th January 2006
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Joe911 said:

There is one bloke in particular that is a persistent offender.

Clearly - asking nicely and getting an amicable arrangement would be ideal, but failing that, what can we do?


I can understand that you're not an expert on the Road Traffic Act and neither am I, but apparently its not an excuse to not know it!?!? because of recent events I've had to read up on the subject. NOTE: no warranty implied or otherwise is given with this info, seek advice from a professional to be sure.

I would suggest an A5 printout under the wiper asking nicely not to block access to your spaces and as a note (in a non-threatening way) you could mention the following from the highway code because it is a "MUST NOT" and has the force of law behind it. Rule 217 is similar but is a "DO NOT" and enforcement seems to vary according to where you live.

highway code said:
216: You MUST NOT park in parking spaces reserved for specific users, such as Blue Badge holders or residents, unless entitled to do so.
Law CSDPA sect 21 & RTRA sects 5 & 8


It may not be the right law but it sounds right and may be enough to deter it. Your local council website will more than likely have parking enforcement links and there may be a web form allowing you to report unreasonable offenders.

Its best to do this nicely, the locals may not take kindly to direct threats.

mhussa

93 posts

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Monday 30th January 2006
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hmmm I just noticed you said they "block access" but not take spaces, well the rest of the highway code is a reasonable place to start for info.

Joe911

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Monday 30th January 2006
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mhussa said:
hmmm I just noticed you said they "block access" but not take spaces, well the rest of the highway code is a reasonable place to start for info.

Sometimes (mainly at the weekend, but also occasionally in the week) they actually drive onto our property and park in our spaces and go shopping (or whatever) - that's trespassing, right? Sometimes they park by the dropped kerb and (merely) block access.
It doesn't help that the road markings are worn away - I think the council have been asked to look at it.

mhussa

93 posts

273 months

Monday 30th January 2006
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Joe911 said:
mhussa said:
hmmm I just noticed you said they "block access" but not take spaces, well the rest of the highway code is a reasonable place to start for info.

Sometimes (mainly at the weekend, but also occasionally in the week) they actually drive onto our property and park in our spaces and go shopping (or whatever) - that's trespassing, right? Sometimes they park by the dropped kerb and (merely) block access.
It doesn't help that the road markings are worn away - I think the council have been asked to look at it.


If they take your reserved space then yes rule 216 of the HC applies. I think some councils also have an enforcement phone number and they should clarify it immediately for you.

superlightr

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293 months

Monday 30th January 2006
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let their tyres down ........ totally legal and fair..... so Im told......

Joe911

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Monday 30th January 2006
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superlightr said:
let their tyres down ........ totally legal and fair..... so Im told......

I did think of that - although the immediate impact is of course to make it so they don't move their vehicle

Joe911

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Monday 30th January 2006
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jamesson said:
I wouldn't let down their tyres. That's criminal damage and you *could* be arrested for it.

Does it cause damage? I realise it could - but does the law accept it as "damage" in fact?
Damage is in fact more likely when the owner drives off without realising than when the tyres are let down, no?


>> Edited by Joe911 on Monday 30th January 17:08

eccles

14,390 posts

252 months

Monday 30th January 2006
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get a barrier installed, let them park there one weekend, then lower the barrier and lock them in!
or let them park there, then park you're vehicle in the entrance way (but on your property)and block them in.
put up a few private parking signs to cover yourself, they'll have no exscuses then.

gafferjim

1,337 posts

295 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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Get some signs made "Unauthorised vehicles will be clamped" type of thing, and screw them to the wall. If it persists, buy a clamp and charge them £75 to be unclamped. as for the car parking across the exit, phone the BiB, he's causing an obstruction.

superlightr

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293 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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jamesson said:
I wouldn't let down their tyres. That's criminal damage and you *could* be arrested for it.



it was a joke linked to another thread about greenies letting down 4x4 tyes and claiming it was legal, keep up at the back there !

motco

17,647 posts

276 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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It might be argued that, since air is now supplied from pay-to-use vending machines on forecourts, letting tyres down is 'theft of air'.

eccles

14,390 posts

252 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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gafferjim said:
Get some signs made "Unauthorised vehicles will be clamped" type of thing, and screw them to the wall. If it persists, buy a clamp and charge them £75 to be unclamped. as for the car parking across the exit, phone the BiB, he's causing an obstruction.



i think you have to be licensed to use clamps these days.

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

264 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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Get the most disgustingly sticky 'sticker' and put it on the windscreen, asking them not to do it again.

Rob_the_Sparky

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268 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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A big gob of grease used to hold the sticker to the windscreen will do the job! It is an arse to clean off but does no damage (although not sure it is all that legal given that letting tyres down seems to be criminal damage)

elwe

192 posts

250 months

Tuesday 31st January 2006
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Whether they are blocking your access to the street or parked in your space call the BiB and tell them that your access to the public highway is being obstructed. They will try to ring the car owner and then send someone out to tow the offending vehicle.

I had a neighbour blocking access to my garage reapeatedly. Eventually I gave up askin him to move and called the BiB. He quickly changed his ways.

denbeer

534 posts

250 months

Wednesday 1st February 2006
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Let his tyres down and take a chance . The offender will notice the heavinessin his steering before he drives off

bga

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281 months

Wednesday 1st February 2006
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Rob_the_Sparky said:
A big gob of grease used to hold the sticker to the windscreen will do the job! It is an arse to clean off but does no damage (although not sure it is all that legal given that letting tyres down seems to be criminal damage)


Someone blocked our cars in the other day so my neighbour wrote "please do not park in front of our drive" in lipstick on the windscreen. The guy was there for ages trying to clear it. He hasn't done it again