"Borrowing" a car

[ywouldi]

My Brother and his mate acted stupidly today and took his dads car out for a drive (not my Bro's dad). They got found out and now the mates (T) mother is thinking about involving the police in order to properly punish him. Would my Brother (16 years old) face charges at all as he was a passenger in a car that had effectivly been stolen.

Please no lectures, I'm gonna kick the crap out of him next time I see him.

Ben

[Parrot of Doom]

doubt it.

[eccles]

isn't there an offence of letting yourself be carried in a stolen car?

[7db]

The offence is likely to be taken without consent. Also driving without insurance is likely. Did he also drive whilst disqualified (ie before he had a licence?).

I'm not sure on what happens to passengers - I suspect there is something crafty they can get them with. Permitting driving without insurance might fit the bill.

[BliarOut]

I think "kicking the crap" out of someone is still an offence though

[rewc]

BliarOut said:

I think "kicking the crap" out of someone is still an offence though

I think you will find it all depends who is doing the kicking

[Richard C]

Discipline should always be a matter for families, not the state.

[denbeer]

If the kicking does not produce any crap , an offence has been commited

[Dwight VanDriver]

Could be driver and passenger committing offence.

Section 12 Theft Act 1968

Driver:TWOC

Passenger: Knowing vehicle had been TWOC allows themselves to be carried in or on it.

Triable summarily: Fine of 6 months imp.

Defence to TWOC:

Belief at the time of taking that they had authority to do so, or
Belief that they would have owners consent had the owner known of the taking and the circumstances.

dvd

[Einion Yrth]

Beggars belief that the kid's mother would want to get him a criminal record and possible imprisonment - I certainly don't condone their actions, but I think justice would be better served by 'keeping it in the family' as it were. Glad my mother was never such a b1tch.

[dmitsi]

A friend of mine is school used to take his dads mr2 or corrolla up and down the road. Age 16 he ends up sliding down the road on the roof.

Dad comes home and sees the mess, takes him to station, presses charges. He was banned from driving for two years, and had to take a special test.

[Davel]

She may just being using the threat to tell the police as a future deterrent!

[justinp1]

Dwight VanDriver said:

Could be driver and passenger committing offence. Section 12 Theft Act 1968 Driver:TWOC Passenger: Knowing vehicle had been TWOC allows themselves to be carried in or on it. Triable summarily: Fine of 6 months imp. Defence to TWOC: Belief at the time of taking that they had authority to do so, or Belief that they would have owners consent had the owner known of the taking and the circumstances. dvd

I thought this may be the case. I find it unlikely though that the kids mother would want her kid in prison. Their is no implication that he is from a bad family, so I am guessing he is a good kid who did something 'king stupid, and I would have thought some kind of punishment could be given within the family, unless he is in danger of coming off the rails and needs a warning. Dragging him through the legal system and sticking him with a load of convicted criminals wouldnt be the best way IMO.

Perhaps if the punishment his parents would be giving out would not be 'enough' perhaps if the family know of a friendly bobby to drop by the house to have an informal chat in uniform would be enough to scare him enough to remember it for the rest of his life!

[marcp68]

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Perhaps if the punishment his parents would be giving out would not be 'enough' perhaps if the family know of a friendly bobby to drop by the house to have an informal chat in uniform would be enough to scare him enough to remember it for the rest of his life![/quote]

AS it happens just had both the local police sargent and Community Support Officer in for coffee so bounced the Q...........their response/advice was get hold of the local officer/CSP tell them what's happened and ask them to have a word with the youth concerned....nothing official just a quiet word about what an a** he's been.

As well as you kicking the sh** out of him in a politically correct non voilent brotherly type of way.........

[Dwight VanDriver]

>>>> informal chat in uniform would be enough to scare him enough to remember it for the rest of his life!<<<<<<

Are then any kids left out there that would be scared?

Christ I have had dealings with some that even the a Rack or stocks wouldn't break.
water off a duck's back springs to mind.

Diss rules OK.

dvd

[Yugguy]

Difficult one. I don't think the quiet word from the bib carries the weight it used to. I can understand why the mother is doing what she does. Kids do need to learn that actions have consequences and at 16 he surely knew that what he was doing was wrong. I think if I were her I'd very much play up the possibility of going to prison and see how he reacted to it. It's a shame that you can't just stick them in the cells for one night, show them what it'd be like.

>> Edited by Yugguy on Wednesday 1st February 15:00

[haydj]

When my brother was younger, he decided to have a larf with his mates and ring the fire brigade for a fake fire next door.

Muppet used the house phone.

The local bib did a great job of scaring him. They arranged with my parents to "arrest" him and took him to the station, where he recived a severe formal bollocking from BiB in front of parents etc. I think they also gave the full guided tour of the cells etc.

Certainly beets a "quiet" word