ANPR, calling Tonyrec
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As Tony's ANPR thread has gone off topic, I've started this to ask a question.
A few months ago, South Yorkshire police told the local paper they have abandoned use of ANPR in their cars because the databases were so bad that every other suspect vehicle turned out to be legitimate.
My son and I have had tickets for no tax when the cars were taxed. These were administrative errors and took a lot of my time and effort to rectify. So, I'm not surprised to hear those comments from SYP.
Does your experience contradict this?
A few months ago, South Yorkshire police told the local paper they have abandoned use of ANPR in their cars because the databases were so bad that every other suspect vehicle turned out to be legitimate.
My son and I have had tickets for no tax when the cars were taxed. These were administrative errors and took a lot of my time and effort to rectify. So, I'm not surprised to hear those comments from SYP.
Does your experience contradict this?
mybrainhurts said:
As Tony's ANPR thread has gone off topic, I've started this to ask a question.
A few months ago, South Yorkshire police told the local paper they have abandoned use of ANPR in their cars because the databases were so bad that every other suspect vehicle turned out to be legitimate.
My son and I have had tickets for no tax when the cars were taxed. These were administrative errors and took a lot of my time and effort to rectify. So, I'm not surprised to hear those comments from SYP.
Does your experience contradict this?
When our cars first started to use the ANPR system about 18 months ago it was extremely poor. The databases were always out of date and the machine itself had terrible problems, the screens kept freezing and it wasnt user friendly. In fact, it was nothing short of a liability although no one doubted that in essence it was or should i say, could be very good.
However, over the past 6 months especially, it has worked very well indeed. Apart from the mechanical teething problems, the databases are now up to date and contain the correct, or should i say useful up to date information.
It is surprising how well they work even when travelling at speed and they read both front and rear.
The other problem that we had has now been largely overcome, and that is their efficiency when its dark. With infra red lenses coming in, there should no longer be a problem.
However, when we do these 'big' ANPR operations, we have specially equipped vans with multiple cameras so the whole width of the road can be covered, often in different directions.
Hope that this has answered your questions for now.
Yes, thanks.
I still don't see how you avoid a high rate of failure, given that the DVLA database takes up to 6 weeks to update car tax renewed at post offices. This is true, a DVLA bod told me in a DVLA office.
I've just taxed my car at a post office so you'll be viewing me as untaxed for the next 6 weeks.
Insurance must also be a problem, if recent experience is typical. I bought a 9 month old Mondeo estate and took Ford's free seven day insurance scheme to drive it home. I had to contact Ford insurance by phone to set it up. When I gave the nice lady my registration, she said thank you sir, that comes up as a Fiat van. I assume that's from the insurance database?
>> Edited by mybrainhurts on Sunday 5th February 00:24
I still don't see how you avoid a high rate of failure, given that the DVLA database takes up to 6 weeks to update car tax renewed at post offices. This is true, a DVLA bod told me in a DVLA office.
I've just taxed my car at a post office so you'll be viewing me as untaxed for the next 6 weeks.
Insurance must also be a problem, if recent experience is typical. I bought a 9 month old Mondeo estate and took Ford's free seven day insurance scheme to drive it home. I had to contact Ford insurance by phone to set it up. When I gave the nice lady my registration, she said thank you sir, that comes up as a Fiat van. I assume that's from the insurance database?
>> Edited by mybrainhurts on Sunday 5th February 00:24
Tonyrec said:
As Tony's ANPR thread has gone off topic, I've started this to ask a question.
A few months ago, South Yorkshire police told the local paper they have abandoned use of ANPR in their cars because the databases were so bad that every other suspect vehicle turned out to be legitimate.
My son and I have had tickets for no tax when the cars were taxed. These were administrative errors and took a lot of my time and effort to rectify. So, I'm not surprised to hear those comments from SYP.
Does your experience contradict this?
When our cars first started to use the ANPR system about 18 months ago it was extremely poor. The databases were always out of date and the machine itself had terrible problems, the screens kept freezing and it wasnt user friendly. In fact, it was nothing short of a liability although no one doubted that in essence it was or should i say, could be very good.
However, over the past 6 months especially, it has worked very well indeed. Apart from the mechanical teething problems, the databases are now up to date and contain the correct, or should i say useful up to date information.
It is surprising how well they work even when travelling at speed and they read both front and rear.
The other problem that we had has now been largely overcome, and that is their efficiency when its dark. With infra red lenses coming in, there should no longer be a problem.
However, when we do these 'big' ANPR operations, we have specially equipped vans with multiple cameras so the whole width of the road can be covered, often in different directions.
Hope that this has answered your questions for now.
I agree totally - my experience is that the system is much better now ......
john57 said:
I agree totally - my experience is that the system is much better now ......
I really don't understand that. The DVLA database was recently an utter shambles. I know this from experience, which I won't go into here because I'd be filling pages.
How can it suddenly come right...?
Confused, as ever.....
mybrainhurts said:
I agree totally - my experience is that the system is much better now ......
I really don't understand that. The DVLA database was recently an utter shambles. I know this from experience, which I won't go into here because I'd be filling pages.
How can it suddenly come right...?
Confused, as ever.....
The DVLA database is only one of many that are used ........
Tonyrec said:Of course, that depends how you measure "failure". Many innocent motorists, wrongly stopped and questioned would define those events as "failure" - Streaky
We avoid a high rate of failure by asking questions and basic investigation. If theres any doubt then the vehicle is left alone. Its that simple.
mybrainhurts said:
When I gave the nice lady my registration, she said thank you sir, that comes up as a Fiat van. I assume that's from the insurance database?
No, the insurance co will have a link out to one of the HPI like companies to backfill the data from the reg plate, a bit like a postcode lookup, only more complicated.
HPI etc... get their data from DVLA/NI and the manufacturers.
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