Private Plates
Discussion
A friend of mine recently got pulled over for having a rear light out, and he has a plate with illegal spacing.
The police said that this summer there introducing cameras that take a picture of everycar that passes and if the plates are illegally spaced the owner will receive 3 points and £60 fine
Is this true?
If so i will need to sell my plate as well
Cheers
Brad
The police said that this summer there introducing cameras that take a picture of everycar that passes and if the plates are illegally spaced the owner will receive 3 points and £60 fine
Is this true?
If so i will need to sell my plate as well
Cheers
Brad
pmanson said:
The police said that this summer there introducing cameras that take a picture of everycar that passes and if the plates are illegally spaced the owner will receive 3 points and £60 fine
How will it know who to send the points to if the camera can't read them?
There is the trick: Cameras dont read, they just take the picture. If the ANPR system cant recognise a plate for whatever reason, I am guessing they would be passed on to a human to send out the letter.
However, I thought that illegally spaced plates were non-endorsable...
Not to mention that the 'cherished' registration can be taken back by DVLA.
This is just one of these double standard mealy mouthed situations that really yanks my chain with UK Government. I could blame Labour but I guess all the others would be just as bad.
One arm of Govt quite correctly tries to clamp down on muppets who deliberately arrange the spacing of the VRN alphanumerics, possibly coupled with crucially placed bolts, so as to give the impression that the VRN is some 'significant' word.
Another arm of Govt sells the numbers at a premium to said muppets, in the full knowledge that the only way the sale price can be justified is by displaying the number incorrectly and illegally.
Furthermore the lack of enforcement just increases the general level of disrespect and belief that nothing matters anymore and the "I'll do what I want and **** you" mentality.
This is just one of these double standard mealy mouthed situations that really yanks my chain with UK Government. I could blame Labour but I guess all the others would be just as bad.
One arm of Govt quite correctly tries to clamp down on muppets who deliberately arrange the spacing of the VRN alphanumerics, possibly coupled with crucially placed bolts, so as to give the impression that the VRN is some 'significant' word.
Another arm of Govt sells the numbers at a premium to said muppets, in the full knowledge that the only way the sale price can be justified is by displaying the number incorrectly and illegally.
Furthermore the lack of enforcement just increases the general level of disrespect and belief that nothing matters anymore and the "I'll do what I want and **** you" mentality.
Try and get a plate that says Brad then
mine is B2AD F, and thats how its spaced, no different screw etc all correct font as well
I have been pulled once with the plate andy never mentioned it as its clearly readable and the policeman was a nice guy asking me about the car etc.
I have seen many many worse than mine that i found hard to even work out what numbers were what!
Surely it would b the same idea as the london congestion zone cameras would it not??
mine is B2AD F, and thats how its spaced, no different screw etc all correct font as well
I have been pulled once with the plate andy never mentioned it as its clearly readable and the policeman was a nice guy asking me about the car etc.
I have seen many many worse than mine that i found hard to even work out what numbers were what!
Surely it would b the same idea as the london congestion zone cameras would it not??
Davel said:Surely there is a difference between increasing or reducing gaps between characters - which typically makes the registration easier to remember - and all that babyish stuff of coloured screwheads, halving the width of verticals strokes, illegible italic typefaces and the like.
If a private plate has to be created by moving numbers or putting in black dots etc, is it really worth the effort?
If you do this, knowing the risks, then you takes your chances etc.....
The first takes advantage of the characters that one's been dealt without in the least affecting their identity. The whole point of the second is to disguise the true registration.
Brad, you ought to be free to space them as you wish.
at present the tarffic police cars scan every number plate they can read and compare it to an onboard data base which is loaded up into the car at the beginning of the shift....
Well thats what the nice police man told me back in October when he pulled me over because his car could not read my number plate.... £30 fine and told to change plates....
Fine paid..... plates not changed cos I was to lazy
Month ago, got home and same policeman sitting out side my house waiting as he had seen me earlier with illegal plates. This time not so freindly... waiting court summons, car photographed as evidence, number plates taken as evidence. New plates put on in from of him (told you I was lazy... I had them just didn't get round to changing them)......
waiting now for upto 6 months for summons... with a possible max fine £1k and possible plate reg confiscation...
BE WARNED .... the Bibs are craking down on illegal plates
Well thats what the nice police man told me back in October when he pulled me over because his car could not read my number plate.... £30 fine and told to change plates....
Fine paid..... plates not changed cos I was to lazy
Month ago, got home and same policeman sitting out side my house waiting as he had seen me earlier with illegal plates. This time not so freindly... waiting court summons, car photographed as evidence, number plates taken as evidence. New plates put on in from of him (told you I was lazy... I had them just didn't get round to changing them)......
waiting now for upto 6 months for summons... with a possible max fine £1k and possible plate reg confiscation...
BE WARNED .... the Bibs are craking down on illegal plates
Private plates? No strong feelings - whatever turns you on.
However, what does seem a bit incongruous is the fact that DVLA make a lot of cash by selling registrations that can appear to form names, then when the person who has bought the plate actually does this he's in danger of having the number taken from him withour recompense because he's in breach of C & U regulations in respect of the spacing of the letters, plus a fine (but, of course, no points).
Double standards applying here maybe.
However, what does seem a bit incongruous is the fact that DVLA make a lot of cash by selling registrations that can appear to form names, then when the person who has bought the plate actually does this he's in danger of having the number taken from him withour recompense because he's in breach of C & U regulations in respect of the spacing of the letters, plus a fine (but, of course, no points).
Double standards applying here maybe.
BliarOut said:
Try and get a plate that says Brad then
mine is B2AD F, and thats how its spaced, no different screw etc all correct font as well
So it's illegal, and you know it, so why draw attention to yourself?
No sympathy.
Difficult to judge. Not had those dreaded words yet. "I don't mean to criticise but..."
flemke said:
If a private plate has to be created by moving numbers or putting in black dots etc, is it really worth the effort?
If you do this, knowing the risks, then you takes your chances etc.....
The first takes advantage of the characters that one's been dealt without in the least affecting their identity. The whole point of the second is to disguise the true registration.
Brad, you ought to be free to space them as you wish.
:devils advocate:
But one isn't free to space them as one wishes. Even though it is easy to point the finger at people who modify and distort letters to appear as something else.
Rather like someone saying, "Well your honour, I did stick the knife into her, but look at that Sutcliffe chap, far worse"
:/devils advocate:
I DID say Devils advocate mode.
The fact is anyhting thats correct spaced will cost probably 3k +
i saw B 13RAD again spacing would be changed because of this!
If i get any hassle i will just sell the plate and get an initials one or one to match my car.
But i suppose it all depends on the policeman really and how badly spacced my plate is, but i have simple changed 1 spacing!
Thanks for the replies thought everyone
i saw B 13RAD again spacing would be changed because of this!
If i get any hassle i will just sell the plate and get an initials one or one to match my car.
But i suppose it all depends on the policeman really and how badly spacced my plate is, but i have simple changed 1 spacing!
Thanks for the replies thought everyone
Sadly, it is probably down to discretion currently.
I was stopped a few years ago because my them plate's lettering was too thick even though it was supplied like that by an approved plate maker. The copper even wanted to see the replacement plate and then talk to the local plate maker.
Now, like many other motoring issues, it's another easy picking in many cases - although I accept that some numbers are illegible and probably deserve a pull.
I was stopped a few years ago because my them plate's lettering was too thick even though it was supplied like that by an approved plate maker. The copper even wanted to see the replacement plate and then talk to the local plate maker.
Now, like many other motoring issues, it's another easy picking in many cases - although I accept that some numbers are illegible and probably deserve a pull.
I believe it is non-endorsable only and I don't know of any changes to that but I'll bow to anyones better knowledge. DVD - where are you!
Zero sympathy as well I'm afraid. Mis-spacing plates IMO marks you out as a rather sad case, and if it is points then good. I think there is a correlation between those who re-arrange numberplates and those who insist on having their front fog lights on, regardless of the conditions.
"They're driving lights."
Now there's a £30 ticket which SHOULD be upgraded to £60/3 points.
Zero sympathy as well I'm afraid. Mis-spacing plates IMO marks you out as a rather sad case, and if it is points then good. I think there is a correlation between those who re-arrange numberplates and those who insist on having their front fog lights on, regardless of the conditions.
"They're driving lights."
Now there's a £30 ticket which SHOULD be upgraded to £60/3 points.
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