Driving instruction in good 'ol Blighty?
Driving instruction in good 'ol Blighty?
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LotusNova

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512 posts

247 months

Wednesday 12th April 2006
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Was chatting to a colleague today, who's just failed the 'paper' part of his driving test (for the second time - he hasn't got anywhere near ICBM'ing distance of a practical yet...).

In France, you're allowed up to 5 errors on the written exam, he got 6. One of the questions he failed on is as follows (bear in mind, he's Dutch, I'm English, we're both translating from French, so I can't guarantee this is word-for-word accurate - however my wife's French and assures me I got the gist of it right):
"You're driving down a straight road. There's a junction ahead at which you have priority. A car is waiting at the junction, half of it over the junction line. What should you do?"

His response (and I agree with him - based on a general philosophy of: if a situation looks risky then do whatever's necessary to avoid an accident) was: stop & let the other car through. Wrong. The 'correct' response was "you have right of way, so continue. Period". IMHO this is utter lunacy.

It's not rocket science to me, that if this is the behaviour we have to teach young drivers is appropriate, so that they can pass the test, then this is the behaviour they will model once they've passed.

I'd be interested if it's the same in the U.K. these days (I hope not).

Comments?

gshughes

1,349 posts

285 months

Wednesday 12th April 2006
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my answer would be neither the above, but continue at reduced speed covering the brake.

Hollywood Wheels

3,689 posts

260 months

Wednesday 12th April 2006
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gshughes said:
my answer would be neither the above, but continue at reduced speed covering the brake.


7db

6,060 posts

260 months

Wednesday 12th April 2006
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As above but also horn until you get a reaction. Then a wave of thanks once you are through.

TOPTON

1,514 posts

266 months

Wednesday 12th April 2006
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Simalar question on UK theory test. Correct answer is, Slow down and be prepared to stop.

munter

31,331 posts

271 months

Wednesday 12th April 2006
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your trying to make sence of a French test

Remember these are not logical people! If the instructions say it's done a certain way that is the way the instructions say it should be done. But it's certainly not the way it would be done.

Remember Europe works something like:
The French come up with ideas
The Germans turn them into laws
and The British actually obey them!

>> Edited by munter on Wednesday 12th April 20:37

turbobloke

117,293 posts

290 months

Wednesday 12th April 2006
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There was once an item circulating on motoring forums - maybe here - about another similar question from the French test, claimed to be genuine, about a mother with a pushchair (presumably avec tadpole on board sign) protruding from the pavement and the same question i.e. what do you do...you can guess the (claimed) answer.

hanse cronje

2,423 posts

251 months

Wednesday 12th April 2006
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one make take le piss but at least they overtake, allow you to overtake and have excellent lane discipline and a reasonable speed on motorways, polite coppers if you get nicked unless on point duty

Vive la France

falcemob

8,248 posts

266 months

Wednesday 12th April 2006
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It seems the French have got it right.

turbobloke

117,293 posts

290 months

Wednesday 12th April 2006
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falcemob said:
It seems the French have got it right.
They have the right approach to speed cameras for sure.

vipers

33,514 posts

258 months

Wednesday 12th April 2006
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LotusNova said:
Was chatting to a colleague today, who's just failed the 'paper' part of his driving test (for the second time - he hasn't got anywhere near ICBM'ing distance of a practical yet...).

In France, you're allowed up to 5 errors on the written exam, he got 6. One of the questions he failed on is as follows (bear in mind, he's Dutch, I'm English, we're both translating from French, so I can't guarantee this is word-for-word accurate - however my wife's French and assures me I got the gist of it right):
"You're driving down a straight road. There's a junction ahead at which you have priority. A car is waiting at the junction, half of it over the junction line. What should you do?"

His response (and I agree with him - based on a general philosophy of: if a situation looks risky then do whatever's necessary to avoid an accident) was: stop & let the other car through. Wrong. The 'correct' response was "you have right of way, so continue. Period". IMHO this is utter lunacy.

It's not rocket science to me, that if this is the behaviour we have to teach young drivers is appropriate, so that they can pass the test, then this is the behaviour they will model once they've passed.

I'd be interested if it's the same in the U.K. these days (I hope not).

Comments?


Well in the UK I think many drivers would take the approach of "I have the right of way" and carry on, but if the other car is over the road, and I assume stationary, why?.

To carry on means pulling over, what about on coming traffic and other cars behind you, and if he is half way acoross the junction, isnt it possible he may continue to drive over it?

7db

6,060 posts

260 months

Wednesday 12th April 2006
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If the other car has already crossed the giveway line when you first see it on approach, I wonder whether in fact it has priority as the car ahead of you on the road and already in the hazard...

Just a thought.

Balmoral Green

42,561 posts

278 months

Wednesday 12th April 2006
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LotusNova said:
There's a junction ahead at which you have priority. A car is waiting at the junction, half of it over the junction line. What should you do?"
Hit it!

LotusNova

Original Poster:

512 posts

247 months

Saturday 15th April 2006
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BalmoralGreen said:
Hit it!

That might get you through the test here, but I'd rather not

Thanks folks - interesting feedback.

Richard C

1,685 posts

287 months

Sunday 16th April 2006
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[quote=munter]
Remember Europe works something like:
The French come up with ideas
The Germans turn them into laws
and The British actually obey them
[/quote

Excellent

But I think it might be "The British actually enforce them without discretion"