Trade plates, use of.
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Deltafox

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3,839 posts

262 months

Thursday 20th April 2006
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Can anyone tell me if its legal to tow a vehicle that is on trade plates?

Vehicle needs to go from point a to point b but cannot be driven, it could however be towed, but since it isnt taxed or insured the trade plate idea sprang to mind.

Dont know if its a daft idea or even if its legal.

tvrgit

8,489 posts

282 months

Thursday 20th April 2006
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I don't know if it's changed, but I thought that if you're towing then road tax / mot aren't relevant - you put a towboard on the back with the towing cars plate on, and you're off.

I might be out of date with that though...

2 Smokin Barrels

32,037 posts

265 months

Thursday 20th April 2006
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Trade plate is only a "portable" tax disc.

2 Smokin Barrels

32,037 posts

265 months

Thursday 20th April 2006
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You cannot "borrow" trade plates.

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

274 months

Friday 21st April 2006
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From what you post DF it would initially appear that it is outside the scope of the definition of a motor trader/valeter's use of a TP

www.tinyurl.com/94g9

go to Part 1 Schedule 6.

The question of towing as far as Insurance goes also need looking at to see if the towed vehicle remains a motor vehicle for the purposes of Insurance and Excise.If it so remains then these items needed.

dvd

Deltafox

Original Poster:

3,839 posts

262 months

Friday 21st April 2006
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Dwight VanDriver said:
From what you post DF it would initially appear that it is outside the scope of the definition of a motor trader/valeter's use of a TP

www.tinyurl.com/94g9

go to Part 1 Schedule 6.

The question of towing as far as Insurance goes also need looking at to see if the towed vehicle remains a motor vehicle for the purposes of Insurance and Excise.If it so remains then these items needed.

dvd


Thanks DVD ill have a good look at that. Cheers!

towman

14,938 posts

269 months

Friday 21st April 2006
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It is my understanding (and I`m usually wrong), that a towed vehicle only becomes a trailer if there is no driver. Hence in this instance as it would require a driver (i.e. someone "in control" of the vehicle), I would consider that the driver in question would need to bi insured and that the vehicle should be taxed - it is after all being "used" on the road. Just my opinion.

tvrgit

8,489 posts

282 months

Friday 21st April 2006
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towman - I think you're right - if you're towing on a rope with another driver, then it's a car - if it's a wheel lift with no driver, then it's a trailer.

Not sure about rigid pole tows (oooh er missus)

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

274 months

Friday 21st April 2006
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The offences involving Insurance and Excise concentrate on THE USE of a vehicle on a road not the driving.

Trailers can create difficulties both in relation to vehicles covered and the use to which they are being put. Bear in mind 'trailers' are themselves 'vehicles' at times and as such may be included in the definition of 'motor vehicles'.

When motor vehicles are being towed by other vehicles they remain 'motor vehicles' as such when USED on the road (Milstead v Sexton 1964). If the wheels of the towed vehicle are in contact with the road then is it not 'using'?

The only way it can be classed as a 'trailer' is where the motor vehicle is that clapped out, parts missing with great expense to put back roadworthy and the owner has no intention of doing so. IIRC can then be said to no longer be a motor vehicle.

dvd

towman

14,938 posts

269 months

Friday 21st April 2006
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Thanks DVD. On the ball as usual