Nurse Jailed for Driving fine lie.......
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Following on from the Justice still lives thread, she should have robbed someone.....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/en
Nurse jailed for driving fine lie
A Devon nurse who lied about not being the driver of a speeding car has been sent to jail for six months.
Joy Rees, 39, from Plymouth, was caught travelling at 51mph in a 40mph zone while driving a friend's car.
She responded to a fixed penalty notice saying an American resident had been at the wheel. Photographic evidence later identified Ms Rees as the driver.
She was given a six-month driving ban and sentenced to six months in jail at Plymouth Crown Court on Thursday.
Ms Rees, a psychiatric nurse, told the Devon and Cornwall Safety Camera Partnership that Joanne Aiken, her former sister-in-law and a US resident since 1993, had driven the car.
The case was initially heard in absentia in February 2006. Ms Aiken was found guilty, fined £105 by Plymouth Magistrates' Court, and had her licence endorsed.
The DVLA found Ms Rees had falsified the information when they tried to contact Ms Aikens at a UK address.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/en
Nurse jailed for driving fine lie
A Devon nurse who lied about not being the driver of a speeding car has been sent to jail for six months.
Joy Rees, 39, from Plymouth, was caught travelling at 51mph in a 40mph zone while driving a friend's car.
She responded to a fixed penalty notice saying an American resident had been at the wheel. Photographic evidence later identified Ms Rees as the driver.
She was given a six-month driving ban and sentenced to six months in jail at Plymouth Crown Court on Thursday.
Ms Rees, a psychiatric nurse, told the Devon and Cornwall Safety Camera Partnership that Joanne Aiken, her former sister-in-law and a US resident since 1993, had driven the car.
The case was initially heard in absentia in February 2006. Ms Aiken was found guilty, fined £105 by Plymouth Magistrates' Court, and had her licence endorsed.
The DVLA found Ms Rees had falsified the information when they tried to contact Ms Aikens at a UK address.
Richard C said:
It has little to do with speeding.
Absolutely correct VH, its all about the jealous and greedy pursuit of money by a rotten cancer of a corrupt system.
They will leave no stone unturned to get it - unlike so many other crimes.
I disagree, sending someone to prison is not about getting money out of people, it's going to cost a lot of money instead, so it's hardly about that.
What ever offence you commit initially, forget about perverting the court of justice to try & evade it, because if you are caught out it's going to be taken very very seriously.
vonhosen said:
It has little to do with speeding.
Absolutely correct VH, its all about the jealous and greedy pursuit of money by a rotten cancer of a corrupt system.
They will leave no stone unturned to get it - unlike so many other crimes.
I disagree, sending someone to prison is not about getting money out of people, it's going to cost a lot of money instead, so it's hardly about that.
What ever offence you commit initially, forget about perverting the court of justice to try & evade it, because if you are caught out it's going to be taken very very seriously.
I think what grates is the fact that people found guilty of IMHO far more serious crimes seem to get away with lesser punishments. You would get less for burglary.
This person has admittedley lied but it was about speeding and not mugging theft etc. They are obviously a nett contributor to society and in employment. The penalty just seems too harsh. vonhosen said:Ahhh - but for every individual they send to prison (not at the cost of the scamerati) they'll scare thousands of others in to not lying and nominating Johnny Foreigner as the driver! Indeed most people will be easily scared in to not prolonging the process and just admitting that the registered keeper is the driver - even if they are not...
It has little to do with speeding.
Absolutely correct VH, its all about the jealous and greedy pursuit of money by a rotten cancer of a corrupt system.
They will leave no stone unturned to get it - unlike so many other crimes.
I disagree, sending someone to prison is not about getting money out of people, it's going to cost a lot of money instead, so it's hardly about that.
What ever offence you commit initially, forget about perverting the court of justice to try & evade it, because if you are caught out it's going to be taken very very seriously.
It's all about scaring the motorists of the UK in to taking it up the arse without complaining!
Hence more cash for the Scamerati...
She was certainly stupid not to have seen the picture before she got herself into this mess but 6 months for perjury over a minor speeding issue is taking the biscuit imo and wholly unfair. Police officers frequently lie but how often do they get 6 months? I've witnessed it several times. I'm not talking about the nice bib on here though 
She could have done some community service, now she can't serve the community and the tax payer picks up the bill. Has the world gone mad? This is the bench (no doubt advised by the scamerati pro clerk) sending out a message. I also think it's an abuse of their power.
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Edited to say, no doubt she'll be out in a few weeks if she eats humble pie but it's still grossly unfair.
>> Edited by Boosted LS1 on Thursday 11th May 21:02
She could have done some community service, now she can't serve the community and the tax payer picks up the bill. Has the world gone mad? This is the bench (no doubt advised by the scamerati pro clerk) sending out a message. I also think it's an abuse of their power.
Boosted.
Edited to say, no doubt she'll be out in a few weeks if she eats humble pie but it's still grossly unfair.
>> Edited by Boosted LS1 on Thursday 11th May 21:02
stone said:
It has little to do with speeding.
Absolutely correct VH, its all about the jealous and greedy pursuit of money by a rotten cancer of a corrupt system.
They will leave no stone unturned to get it - unlike so many other crimes.
I disagree, sending someone to prison is not about getting money out of people, it's going to cost a lot of money instead, so it's hardly about that.
What ever offence you commit initially, forget about perverting the court of justice to try & evade it, because if you are caught out it's going to be taken very very seriously.
I think what grates is the fact that people found guilty of IMHO far more serious crimes seem to get away with lesser punishments. You would get less for burglary.
There are few offences more important than perverting the course of justice. That's why the maximum sentence is life imprisonment for it & that's something you can't get for theft/burglary etc. If you intentionally endeavour to undermine the natural course of the justice system, expect to pay a large price. It is not something to be taken lightly & people considering doing such a thing for relatively minor offences, need to think again before it's too late.
Boosted LS1 said:
She was certainly stupid not to have seen the picture before she got herself into this mess but 6 months for perjury over a minor speeding issue is taking the biscuit imo and wholly unfair. Police officers frequently lie but how often do they get 6 months? I've witnessed it several times. I'm not talking about the nice bib on here though
She could have done some community service, now she can't serve the community and the tax payer picks up the bill. Has the world gone mad? This is the bench (no doubt advised by the scamerati pro clerk) sending out a message. I also think it's an abuse of their power.
Boosted.
Edited to say, no doubt she'll be out in a few weeks if she eats humble pie but it's still grossly unfair.
It's not perjury, that's a seperate offence.
You can only get a maximum 7 year custodial sentence for perjury, it's a maximum life imprisonment for perverting the course of juctice.
& it's not a bench, she was dealt with at the crown court.
>> Edited by vonhosen on Thursday 11th May 21:14
So it's not perjury, it was perverting the course of justice but still over a trivial matter. It's hardly treason. The punishment doesn't match the offence, her offence.
If you put this to a vote I bet the population as a whole would feel sorry for her and see this as a scamera issue not a 'perverting the course of justice' issue. Heck, even magistrates pull strokes sometimes. The bib I referred to were committing perjury, were critised by the PCA and then disciplined but they were never charged, just advised.
This whole camera nonsense is making a lot of ordinary people take desperate measures albeit sometimes stupidly.
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If you put this to a vote I bet the population as a whole would feel sorry for her and see this as a scamera issue not a 'perverting the course of justice' issue. Heck, even magistrates pull strokes sometimes. The bib I referred to were committing perjury, were critised by the PCA and then disciplined but they were never charged, just advised.
This whole camera nonsense is making a lot of ordinary people take desperate measures albeit sometimes stupidly.
Boosted.
Boosted LS1 said:
So it's not perjury, it was perverting the course of justice but still over a trivial matter. It's hardly treason. The punishment doesn't match the offence, her offence.
If you put this to a vote I bet the population as a whole would feel sorry for her and see this as a scamera issue not a 'perverting the course of justice' issue. Heck, even magistrates pull strokes sometimes. The bib I referred to were committing perjury, were critised by the PCA and then disciplined but they were never charged, just advised.
This whole camera nonsense is making a lot of ordinary people take desperate measures albeit sometimes stupidly.
Boosted.
It doesn't matter how trivial the original offence was (other than, because it was trivial, that is why she only got 6 months. If it had been a more serious offence she'd have got longer.) It's the fact that her deceit undermined the justice system & not only could have, but did lead to an innocent person being convicted of an offence they never committed.
Vonhosen said:
There are few offences more important than perverting the course of justice
Is that what you think that was? Justice? For speeding????? Youre off your rocker old bean.
Justice is life imprisonment for murder or rape, not 6 moths for evading the grasping fingers of the scamerabastards.
Deltafox said:
There are few offences more important than perverting the course of justice
Is that what you think that was? Justice? For speeding????? Youre off your rocker old bean.
Justice is life imprisonment for murder or rape, not 6 moths for evading the grasping fingers of the scamerabastards.
It's not about the original offence, it's about what you did to evade your responsibility for it. Something you wilfully did that led to an innocent person being convicted because of your deceit. You'd get the same or even more for other initial offences.
>> Edited by vonhosen on Thursday 11th May 21:49
vonhosen said:
It has little to do with speeding.
If you pervert the course of justice & particularly if someone else is convicted of an offence you committed because of it, expect to go to jail. No matter what the initial offence was.
>> Edited by vonhosen on Thursday 11th May 20:07
Yes, except this isn't followed particularly consistently, is it !
I recall the person in Bury's SCP/Parking (not sure) who doctored an image. This doesn't seem to be an offence.
It's not the offence any more, it's who you are and whether it is politically popular to do so (internal, not external politics).
stone said:
I think what grates is the fact that people found guilty of IMHO far more serious crimes seem to get away with lesser punishments. You would get less for burglary.
Absolutely. As far as I can see sentencing and prosecution is a complete nonsense.
Must be infuriating if you are a victim or a Cop.
This great crime of perverting the course of justice happens every day in every police station. Criminals being draged in for questioning are forever lying and saying it was someone else - they are rarely even charged for this, more often being given a second chance (or third, fourth...).
The difference is that with the S172 form the offence of lying is quickly provable. As we're dealing with motorists there's an even bigger political force on the police/cps to arrest and prosecute.
The difference is that with the S172 form the offence of lying is quickly provable. As we're dealing with motorists there's an even bigger political force on the police/cps to arrest and prosecute.
vonhosen said:
There are few offences more important than perverting the course of justice
Is that what you think that was? Justice? For speeding????? Youre off your rocker old bean.
Justice is life imprisonment for murder or rape, not 6 moths for evading the grasping fingers of the scamerabastards.
It's not about the original offence, it's about what you did to evade your responsibility for it. Something you wilfully did that led to an innocent person being convicted because of your deceit. You'd get the same or even more for other initial offences.
>> Edited by vonhosen on Thursday 11th May 21:49
The innocent person may have been happy to pick up points. It happens all the time, points sharing schemes may become the norm, to share out the tax burden imposed on ordinary folk.
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