DEATH AFTER POLICE CHASE
Discussion
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t.
As a rule driver speeding off in rush hour through town with kiddies everywhere do what you can but don’t push it.
Any other time of day nail the f*****s.
It’s the sort of thing that can only really be assessed according to the circumstances at the time and that you can’t really set out a strict set of rules.
As a rule driver speeding off in rush hour through town with kiddies everywhere do what you can but don’t push it.
Any other time of day nail the f*****s.
It’s the sort of thing that can only really be assessed according to the circumstances at the time and that you can’t really set out a strict set of rules.
I don't generally have a lot of sympathy for people who kill themselves whilst trying to out run a traffic car, but it's awful when an innocent dies as a result of one of these chases.
Question is do we let them go and get away with it or do we chase them? It's a tough call and not one I'd like to have to make.
Question is do we let them go and get away with it or do we chase them? It's a tough call and not one I'd like to have to make.
lambo cop said:
the police should not chase they should follow. there a big diffrance
Please explain the difference. How do you "Follow" a stolen car that is not going to stop when you put blues and twos on ?? If it was your pride and joy I was behind, after the driver had just raped your partner and killed your mother and father should I just follow ?? Or should I initiate a pursuit ??
I am a pursuit-trained driver, and most of pursuit training is focused on restraint and not allowing red mist to take over. Even in the scenario above, if I felt the pursuit was getting dangerous I would terminate it immediately.
Its not *you* we have to worry about. Its the nutter running.
Why would anyone try to run? Cops have helicopters. There are LOTS of cops. There is *NO WAY* anyone seriously being sought after is going to get away by driving. Stealth - possibly. Driving fast - no.
Mad.
Must be a tough call to decide to stop chasing because of what you've seen the car in front doing...
Don said:
the police should not chase they should follow. there a big diffrance
Please explain the difference. How do you "Follow" a stolen car that is not going to stop when you put blues and twos on ?? If it was your pride and joy I was behind, after the driver had just raped your partner and killed your mother and father should I just follow ?? Or should I initiate a pursuit ??
I am a pursuit-trained driver, and most of pursuit training is focused on restraint and not allowing red mist to take over. Even in the scenario above, if I felt the pursuit was getting dangerous I would terminate it immediately.
Its not *you* we have to worry about. Its the nutter running.
Why would anyone try to run? Cops have helicopters. There are LOTS of cops. There is *NO WAY* anyone seriously being sought after is going to get away by driving. Stealth - possibly. Driving fast - no.
Mad.
Must be a tough call to decide to stop chasing because of what you've seen the car in front doing...
I think you have seen too many police chase movies.
If I was sitting on my motorcycle on any urban, semi urban road and a police car was behind me, I guarantee if I knew the area I would lose them in less than 3 minutes. I'm not sure I would have to break the speed limit by much to do it.
All due respect to police training but they aren't supermen. If you are within their sights long enough for them to initiate their team then you would be likely sunk, but on a modern motorcycle and using its advantage over a car they would be very hard pressed to aprehend. And before you comment I don't think I am a superman either.
I would like to see the figures for initiated police persuits and captures. I don't think its anywhere near as high as you assume.
Davi said:
360boy - did you see where it happened? I cant think how on earth he managed to roll it on Tollbar Way unless he hit a kerb broadside or something?
It was in Tollbar Way, in the part with fields at the side.
I'm sure that we will hear more about what happened, on the Southern News.
Julian64 said:
Its not *you* we have to worry about. Its the nutter running.
Why would anyone try to run? Cops have helicopters. There are LOTS of cops. There is *NO WAY* anyone seriously being sought after is going to get away by driving. Stealth - possibly. Driving fast - no.
Mad.
Must be a tough call to decide to stop chasing because of what you've seen the car in front doing...
I think you have seen too many police chase movies.
If I was sitting on my motorcycle on any urban, semi urban road and a police car was behind me, I guarantee if I knew the area I would lose them in less than 3 minutes. I'm not sure I would have to break the speed limit by much to do it.
All due respect to police training but they aren't supermen. If you are within their sights long enough for them to initiate their team then you would be likely sunk, but on a modern motorcycle and using its advantage over a car they would be very hard pressed to aprehend. And before you comment I don't think I am a superman either.
I would like to see the figures for initiated police persuits and captures. I don't think its anywhere near as high as you assume.
Agreed. They have very limited ariel resources. If the chopper is elsewhere, or fuelling, or broken, all matey boy needs do is drive like an utter loon in a built up area, the persuit gets pulled and then just park up and walk away from the car.
Mr E said:
Its not *you* we have to worry about. Its the nutter running.
Why would anyone try to run? Cops have helicopters. There are LOTS of cops. There is *NO WAY* anyone seriously being sought after is going to get away by driving. Stealth - possibly. Driving fast - no.
Mad.
Must be a tough call to decide to stop chasing because of what you've seen the car in front doing...
I think you have seen too many police chase movies.
If I was sitting on my motorcycle on any urban, semi urban road and a police car was behind me, I guarantee if I knew the area I would lose them in less than 3 minutes. I'm not sure I would have to break the speed limit by much to do it.
All due respect to police training but they aren't supermen. If you are within their sights long enough for them to initiate their team then you would be likely sunk, but on a modern motorcycle and using its advantage over a car they would be very hard pressed to aprehend. And before you comment I don't think I am a superman either.
I would like to see the figures for initiated police persuits and captures. I don't think its anywhere near as high as you assume.
Agreed. They have very limited ariel resources. If the chopper is elsewhere, or fuelling, or broken, all matey boy needs do is drive like an utter loon in a built up area, the persuit gets pulled and then just park up and walk away from the car.
So would you be prepared to pay for a Californian (LA I believe) type of approach.
Been noticed that the scrotes try everything for n minutes after initiation of a pursuit where n minutes = time to get the paraffin parrot onto scene.
Therefore it has been suggested / implemented (??) that they have a chopper permanently aloft to reduce n minutes to a very short time.
Would you be prepared to pay for this?
Re: my 2p people who are saying follow and not pursue. Try standing up and talking. Whilst still talking sit down on a chair. Bet your voice has gone muffled?
Flat in Fifth said:
So would you be prepared to pay for a Californian (LA I believe) type of approach.
Been noticed that the scrotes try everything for n minutes after initiation of a pursuit where n minutes = time to get the paraffin parrot onto scene.
Therefore it has been suggested / implemented (??) that they have a chopper permanently aloft to reduce n minutes to a very short time.
Would you be prepared to pay for this?
paraffin parrot
Last I read on the subject, there was talk of efficient light aircraft with excellent optics and a long loiter time. These are not only cheaper than bellywoppers, they can stay airbourne for longer.
As long as the optics are good enough for the plane to operate at sufficient altitude, the lack of hover is not a huge disadvantage.
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