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A mate of mine was telling me today that apparently, there have been some new laws brought in restricting the amount of time that one can work/drive over a set period. He heard about this because he has a Disco3 and its the subject of discussion on an industry forum he frequents.
This came about because he was asked to do a very high mileage job in a single day, and apparently these laws prevent such things happening because he has a 'dual purpose vehicle'. He also said that estate cars are covered as well.
I thought it might just be related to vans/HGV, but apparently not he says. Anyone know anything about this, or is it an urban myth? Bear in mind we're both self employed.
>> Edited by Parrot of Doom on Monday 15th May 22:24
This came about because he was asked to do a very high mileage job in a single day, and apparently these laws prevent such things happening because he has a 'dual purpose vehicle'. He also said that estate cars are covered as well.
I thought it might just be related to vans/HGV, but apparently not he says. Anyone know anything about this, or is it an urban myth? Bear in mind we're both self employed.
>> Edited by Parrot of Doom on Monday 15th May 22:24
Einion Yrth said:Very interesting, being dead nosey, what prompted the name? (dont have to tell if you dont want to).
Difficult to do phonetically in a standard alphabet but it's sort of ....
'a - neon earth'
although the first syllable has a bit more 'e' about it and the first syllable of the second word has a bit more 'u' about it. The 'r' should be lightly rolled.
HTH
Have a nice day
vipers said:
Difficult to do phonetically in a standard alphabet but it's sort of ....
'a - neon earth'
although the first syllable has a bit more 'e' about it and the first syllable of the second word has a bit more 'u' about it. The 'r' should be lightly rolled.
HTH
Have a nice day
Einion Yrth (the impetuous) was king of Gwynedd in the 5th century CE ( although he originally hailed from the Edinburgh region ).
I've always had an interest in the surviving Celtic tales ( The Mabinogion, Tain bo Cuilaigne etc) and many years ago when I was a young student I got into playing 'dungeons and dragons' (the original, none of the 'advanced' rubbish) and I needed a character name, and 'Einion Yrth' seemed exotic enough, so I 'borrowed' it. There I am now revealed as a sad anorak (reformed)
Einion Yrth said:Genuinly found that to be very educational and interesting, thank you for that.
Einion Yrth (the impetuous) was king of Gwynedd in the 5th century CE ( although he originally hailed from the Edinburgh region ).
I've always had an interest in the surviving Celtic tales ( The Mabinogion, Tain bo Cuilaigne etc) and many years ago when I was a young student I got into playing 'dungeons and dragons' (the original, none of the 'advanced' rubbish) and I needed a character name, and 'Einion Yrth' seemed exotic enough, so I 'borrowed' it. There I am now revealed as a sad anorak (reformed)
Have a nice day
Dwight VanDriver said:
As far as I am aware (rough guide) if it isn't carrying goods for hire/reward or in connection with trade/business and under 3500k mpw then hours have not been imposed as at yet.
dvd
On my car delivery jobs for a car dealership I have quite often worked a 14 hour day, with almost all of it being driving time. I've never really known what (if anything) the law would make of this WRT maximum allowed driving time, and TBH not been too bothered either.
From what you say DVD, my 'work' would not appear to fall within the scope of any such rules, but I'm not sure.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
Dwight VanDriver said:
As far as I am aware (rough guide) if it isn't carrying goods for hire/reward or in connection with trade/business and under 3500k mpw then hours have not been imposed as at yet.
dvd
3500k mpw!!! That's 3,5000,000 miles/week = half a million miles per day. If you drive for the whole 24 hours you would have to average almost 21,000 mph. The first space-ship delivery driver?
Philbes said:
As far as I am aware (rough guide) if it isn't carrying goods for hire/reward or in connection with trade/business and under 3500k mpw then hours have not been imposed as at yet.
dvd
3500k mpw!!! That's 3,5000,000 miles/week = half a million miles per day. If you drive for the whole 24 hours you would have to average almost 21,000 mph. The first space-ship delivery driver?
On the plus side the gatsos couldn't get you.
TripleS said:
On my car delivery jobs for a car dealership I have quite often worked a 14 hour day, with almost all of it being driving time. I've never really known what (if anything) the law would make of this WRT maximum allowed driving time, and TBH not been too bothered either.
From what you say DVD, my 'work' would not appear to fall within the scope of any such rules, but I'm not sure.
Have a look here www.hse.gov.uk/roadsafety/index.htm
It's aimed at employers, but gives you an idea of the sort of things they should be doing. Rumour has it that the Police now refer all work driving accidents to HSE but it's not a priority area for HSE.
If you're an employee then you should be getting time for breaks etc, and the employer ought to check that you take them etc etc. In practice though, much of this stuff is only ever likely to come out if you have a Gary Hart type accident.
vonhosen said:
If you do fall under domestic rules you are required to keep written records for inspection.
I'm always falling foul of domestic rules.
You know the sort of thing - always getting grumbled at, can't do anything right. Good grief!
[/Charlie Brown mode]
Best wishes all,
Dave.
Einion Yrth said:
If you do fall under domestic rules you are required to keep written records for inspection.
Cor, and they'd be really really hard to falsify - fatuous.
Still only applies to goods vehicles though, and not Disco3 (unless it's the van version, presumeably?) and estate cars.
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