EU license and NIP

[LRdriver II]

Ok, a mate of mine from Denmark received a NIP.Twas in my car and I complied with S172 and the NIP was reissued in his name (what a friend I am huh )..no problems yet..

The problem is that he holds a Danish EU license and as such is not required to hold a UK license to drive in the UK. THe problem is now that the Scameraship want him to convert to a UK license in order to give him the points. WTF?

From what I can ascertain from pepipoo, they cant ask him to get a UK license even as though he is a resident(EU rights and confirmed by the lady on the Scameraship "help"-line).
Yet they are asking him to send his license into the DVLA to get a UK one issued. This is a non-starter as in Denmark you are required to carry your license when driving and he obviously wont send the DVLA anything, hence grounding him for 4-5 weeks (airline pilot). Then they want him to go to court as well.. All for a 39 in a 30 and 60£ that he just wants to pay as he admits he was speeding.

He has complied with S172 and said yes it was him, and just wants to pay the fine and get on with life. Said S172 has been sent in and we shall see what happens now..

What is standard operating procedure for tourists/ EU license holders?

[nel]

The french police did the same thing to me when I was caught speeding. Unfortunately at the time I did not know that the EU rules do not allow them to force you to change your paperwork, so I complied.

However, one tip. I informed DVLA that my licence had been eaten by the dog, got a new one, then sent the french authorities the old one in exchange for a froggy one. Your Danish buddy might try the same approach to avoid losing his Danish licence.

[s2art]

I would suggest he just pays the fine, informs them that he requires his licence at all times in Denmark, and tells them to contact the Danish authorities if they want a copy of his licence.
My guess is they give up at that point.
Edited to add

And write the letter in Wildcat style dodgy English!

>> Edited by s2art on Monday 22 May 16:20

[cooperman]

Of course, he could just write to them and inform them that with effect from xx/xx/xx he is returning to live in his homeland where his address will be: xxxxx , and for them to be sure that any further correspondence be addressed to him there to ensure that he receives it. So long as he has a bona-fide address in another EU country it's difficult to see what they can, or will want, do about this.

[LRdriver II]

Whilst discussing it, it both had us question something:

So basically you are not required to carry your license here in the UK whilst driving?? (based on the NIP telling you to include both parts of the UK license)

[deltafox]

All this effort for exceeding a bloody speed limit. Can you effing believe it?

Pity theyre no good for f/a else.

[gilbertd]

LRdriver II said:

Whilst discussing it, it both had us question something: So basically you are not required to carry your license here in the UK whilst driving?? (based on the NIP telling you to include both parts of the UK license)

No, unlike a lot of European countries, you are not legally required to carry any documentation for yourself or the vehicle. I have always thought the European regulations where you must keep the documents with the car to be asking for trouble. Someone can steal your car and have documents so they can easily sell it on. I keep my driving licence with my passport at home in a place where I can easily grab them when needed to go abroad. I keep the documents for the car(s) in a different, but equally secure place at home too. I know where they are when I need them and if a police officer wants to see them he'll give me 7 days to produce at the nearest police station.

[V8 Archie]

gilbertd said:

LRdriver II said: Whilst discussing it, it both had us question something: So basically you are not required to carry your license here in the UK whilst driving?? (based on the NIP telling you to include both parts of the UK license) No, unlike a lot of European countries, you are not legally required to carry any documentation for yourself or the vehicle...

If I remember correctly it is legal not to carry your license (and MOT/insurance certificates) when you are driving but you commit an offence if you do not produce them when asked by a police officer.

In the UK we've come up with the idea of a "producer" which buys you some time to comply with the request - typically one week. However, should you fail to show your documents at the nominated police station within the specified time you are deemed guilty of an offence at the time that the officer asked to see them/wrote out the "producer".