Police refuse to chase thief for fear of being sued?!?!
Police refuse to chase thief for fear of being sued?!?!
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Embrolium

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196 posts

267 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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Hi all,

Just thought I would share this - please can one of the BIB reassure me that this isn't some sort of national policy?

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Police refused to chase a thief who had stolen a moped because the youth was not wearing a helmet, the victim said yesterday.

Max Foster, 18, said officers told him they feared being sued if the thief fell off the moped and injured himself.

The thief escaped on the £1,200 moped, which was only insured third party. Mr Foster, of Coleford, Somerset, uses his Gilera 180cc to commute to work in Bath.

He was staying at a friend's house in Bath on Tuesday night when he was woken at 1.45am by the sound of his machine being ridden outside.

He saw three youths taking it in turns to ride without helmets, and he dialled 999.

Two officers from a police response unit arrived shortly after the trio sped away, but Mr Foster said they told him they could not go after them.

"They said they weren't allowed to follow the yobs because they were not wearing helmets and it was too dangerous," said Mr Foster. "They told me the force could be sued if the riders fell off mid-chase and hurt themselves.

"This softly-softly approach is totally ridiculous. It gives thieves a perfect way to exploit the law and steal as many bikes as they want without getting arrested."

Avon and Somerset police said that aborting a pursuit because the rider was not wearing a helmet was one of the "options available" to officers when "members of the public or the riders themselves could be put in danger".

"With regard to the incident on Tuesday, a decision was made to actively search for the stolen moped and inquiries to trace the offenders are still ongoing."

The Association of Chief Police Officers said: "There is no blanket ban on calling off chases where a rider has no helmet, however most forces will adopt similar stances."

Sharon Ball, a Liberal Democrat councillor in Bath, said: "There is a terrible bike theft problem in this area, and this crazy approach means the issue will just get worse."

splatspeed

7,491 posts

281 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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well have to do it ourselves then

then when we get hurt we can sue the police for not doing there job and us having to do it instead

sounds like a plan i am up for it

truncheon on standby

any way what are they going to sue for loss of earnings????

Edited by splatspeed on Friday 30th June 12:54

r5gttgaz

7,897 posts

250 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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Who cares if he falls off, what is there to damage? They should have rammed him off.

havoc

33,463 posts

265 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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I am truly stunned!

Cherie Blair should be burned at the stake for what she and her colleagues have inflicted on this country.

leosayer

7,838 posts

274 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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So if he fell off WITH a helmet on, he wouldn't get injured?

What a load of bx

smeggy

3,241 posts

269 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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havoc said:
Cherie Blair should be burned at the stake for what she and her colleagues have inflicted on this country.
That is not a death threat.........


What's next? The scrotes will be suing the owners of the vehicles when they fall off, for 'allowing' them find a way to make off with them.... well if a burglar can sue a building owner for falling through a skylight...

Personally, I would prefer them to fall off, it might actually teach them a lesson in road safety - or at least raise the bar of the gene pool.

havoc

33,463 posts

265 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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smeggy said:
havoc said:
Cherie Blair should be burned at the stake for what she and her colleagues have inflicted on this country.
That is not a death threat.........

Nope, just a statement of fact. She should be!

I however, won't do it because I'm law-abiding. Not that it does me any good when the police refuse to chase criminals anymore.

Quick question for the BiB/Lawyers - where's the line between 'doing nothing' and 'aiding and abetting'?!?

esselte

14,626 posts

297 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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havoc said:
smeggy said:
havoc said:
Cherie Blair should be burned at the stake for what she and her colleagues have inflicted on this country.
That is not a death threat.........

Nope, just a statement of fact. She should be!

I however, won't do it because I'm law-abiding. Not that it does me any good when the police refuse to chase criminals anymore.

Quick question for the BiB/Lawyers - where's the line between 'doing nothing' and 'aiding and abetting'?!?


Yo're right.If I know a crime is being committed and I do nothing then I think I would be aiding and abetting,whereas the police do nothing and.........?

Yugguy

10,728 posts

265 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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This goes all the way back to my view that if you are breaking the law you should not expect the protection of it.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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Yugguy said:
This goes all the way back to my view that if you are breaking the law you should not expect the protection of it.


totally agree. thats "human rights" for you. great isn't it?

thornettj

125 posts

251 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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Story must be exaggerated, most coppers I know hate scum like this more than we do, probably something behind it........? Any way, absolute filth death squads would be too good for them

Peter Ward

2,097 posts

286 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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Avon and Somerset Police said:
"... a decision was made to actively search for the stolen moped and inquiries to trace the offenders are still ongoing...."

I suppose this means that they could just as easily have taken a decision not "to actively search" instead. Well I guess we have to be thankful for small mercies in Blair's Britain.

Hollywood Wheels

3,689 posts

260 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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Doesn't suprise me at all. We often get mopeds and bikes racing round our ground after being nicked. I wouldn't dream of chasing them. If i was stupid enough to (which some people are) the chase would very quickly be terminated by the control room anyway. We can't have a thief possiblly being injured, after all it's ME who has a 'duty of care' to them (not joking).I wouldn't want to infringe their human rights would i.....

julianhj

8,871 posts

292 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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It would appear the system is, and I use a technical term here, fed.

711

806 posts

255 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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This is fantastic news for me when I'm out on my motorbike. If I want to go for a real blast, I'll just take the plate off. When the police try and stop me I'll just chuck my helmet at them and ride off scott free! I'm gonna have a great wheeeeekend!

puffpuff

23,205 posts

256 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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Coincidentally I was at a meeting last night at which a member of the Avon & Somerset Police Authority spoke. He asked to be contacted if there were problems with operational matters - I'm going to sling this one right in his face.

I'll let you know the reply.

DennisTheMenace

15,605 posts

298 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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DennisTheMenace said:

Right im off to wrap myself in cotton wool


you fing lunatic. cotton wool is highly flamable

voyds9

8,490 posts

313 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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Like someone said on the radio if you stole a car and didn't use a seatbelt who they chase you?

UncleDave

7,155 posts

261 months

Friday 30th June 2006
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Brilliant News