Goading Unmarked Cop A30 Winchester
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Watch out boys and girls....
White unmarked Skoda Estate (sorry couldn't get reg as we were discussing my "offence" alongside it), as I found out later containing 2 cops.
He was travelling in front of me at about the speed limit on a single carriageway and then slowed very slightly into a dual carraigeway with me following. As speed limits increase to 70 on a DC, I pulled out to pass and he accellerated and kept with me on the inside of me. I get this a lot from plonkers, so didn't make eye contact and gave it a squirt (not heavy as still in 6th) beyond the speed limit to clear him, pulled in and lifted but only slightly. He was then right up my *rse again. Gave it another squirt and he closed the gap again. As I was now off the dual carriageway, I dropped the speed slightly and carried on deciding to ignore him driving too close for the speed and gradually drop my speed over the next mile or so. Then the blue lights in the grille came on.....
When we stopped, he asked me why I was going so quickly. I explained that as I passed him he accellerated and I had to give it some more to complete my pass. He said that if "I wanted to argue about it I could do it in court". I said that I didn't particularly want to do that, but stated that what he did was not appropriate road behaviour especially for a police officer. He cautioned me and asked if I know what brakes are for (condescending tw@) which is quite a silly question for lots of reasons - chiefly, how many times have you had some tw@ pass you, pull in and then brake.... grrrrr... bite tongue again, reply "for slowing the car down" and wait for some more condescending sh1te (your insurance doesn't cover you for racing or speed trials sir, and that was what you were doing etc.... bite tongue again, don't mention track).
I reckon that he was trying to get me to argue but at this stage I was not going to bite as I thought that from what I had said at the outset, he may realise that he was out of order and not nick me. He carried on with a few more goads and then asked if I had any points (3 from Talivan)... not feeling so good at this stage.
Net result, Show licence, insurance, MOT and he said that "we'll leave it at that". My guess is that if I did not take the approach I did - immediately questioning his accelleration as I passed, and explained that I get plonkers doing that a lot, and then backing right off the arguement and wearing his tripe completely, I would probably be relieved of my license in the next few weeks, or at least get some serious points (my speed was a bit more than I wanted to do but totally because of him).
The only good thing about this experience is that although he cautioned me at the outset, he did not give me any paperwork at the end and I guess that his "we'll leave it at that" means that I am not going to get a ticket. If I do subsequently get something through the post, I will argue it all the way through the courts at whatever expense it costs as this guy is not playing the game at all - in my view his behaviour is worse than a Talivan / scamera as he was making it awkward for drivers to remain at a reasonable speed.
So take care if some lousy white Skoda estate tries to race (sic) you near Winchester. He goads you on the road, and again when you get out of the car with words. Try not bite at either and keep your licence.
Kev.
White unmarked Skoda Estate (sorry couldn't get reg as we were discussing my "offence" alongside it), as I found out later containing 2 cops.
He was travelling in front of me at about the speed limit on a single carriageway and then slowed very slightly into a dual carraigeway with me following. As speed limits increase to 70 on a DC, I pulled out to pass and he accellerated and kept with me on the inside of me. I get this a lot from plonkers, so didn't make eye contact and gave it a squirt (not heavy as still in 6th) beyond the speed limit to clear him, pulled in and lifted but only slightly. He was then right up my *rse again. Gave it another squirt and he closed the gap again. As I was now off the dual carriageway, I dropped the speed slightly and carried on deciding to ignore him driving too close for the speed and gradually drop my speed over the next mile or so. Then the blue lights in the grille came on.....
When we stopped, he asked me why I was going so quickly. I explained that as I passed him he accellerated and I had to give it some more to complete my pass. He said that if "I wanted to argue about it I could do it in court". I said that I didn't particularly want to do that, but stated that what he did was not appropriate road behaviour especially for a police officer. He cautioned me and asked if I know what brakes are for (condescending tw@) which is quite a silly question for lots of reasons - chiefly, how many times have you had some tw@ pass you, pull in and then brake.... grrrrr... bite tongue again, reply "for slowing the car down" and wait for some more condescending sh1te (your insurance doesn't cover you for racing or speed trials sir, and that was what you were doing etc.... bite tongue again, don't mention track).
I reckon that he was trying to get me to argue but at this stage I was not going to bite as I thought that from what I had said at the outset, he may realise that he was out of order and not nick me. He carried on with a few more goads and then asked if I had any points (3 from Talivan)... not feeling so good at this stage.
Net result, Show licence, insurance, MOT and he said that "we'll leave it at that". My guess is that if I did not take the approach I did - immediately questioning his accelleration as I passed, and explained that I get plonkers doing that a lot, and then backing right off the arguement and wearing his tripe completely, I would probably be relieved of my license in the next few weeks, or at least get some serious points (my speed was a bit more than I wanted to do but totally because of him).
The only good thing about this experience is that although he cautioned me at the outset, he did not give me any paperwork at the end and I guess that his "we'll leave it at that" means that I am not going to get a ticket. If I do subsequently get something through the post, I will argue it all the way through the courts at whatever expense it costs as this guy is not playing the game at all - in my view his behaviour is worse than a Talivan / scamera as he was making it awkward for drivers to remain at a reasonable speed.
So take care if some lousy white Skoda estate tries to race (sic) you near Winchester. He goads you on the road, and again when you get out of the car with words. Try not bite at either and keep your licence.
Kev.
Furkin bastids,they are doing this all too often c@nts
It's ok they don't sort crime out,it only took the wife two years to get over a gun pointed to her head,was it sorted, was it f@ck,lets go out and make easy money and force someone to speed,c@nts.
sorry for the rant,but it winds me up
It's ok they don't sort crime out,it only took the wife two years to get over a gun pointed to her head,was it sorted, was it f@ck,lets go out and make easy money and force someone to speed,c@nts.
sorry for the rant,but it winds me up
My first reaction is: formal complaint. But if you do they might find something in their pocketbooks to do you for.
A very unsatisfactory state of affairs.
Question for BiB: When would it be 'too late' (in a practical sense) for them (dodgy cops in Skoda) to lay a complaint for consideration of prosecution?
A very unsatisfactory state of affairs.
Question for BiB: When would it be 'too late' (in a practical sense) for them (dodgy cops in Skoda) to lay a complaint for consideration of prosecution?
Guess what I was saying as I drove the rest of the way home Steve.... much the same as you. 
I too have had a few interactions with the police where I, or a friend has been the victim, but never had any help from the poilce or the UK law. The only time a prosecution seems to get through successfully is if I commit a motoring offence. It's really riling (how reserved I am in my posts tonight - but trust me... the air is blue here)!!
I too have had a few interactions with the police where I, or a friend has been the victim, but never had any help from the poilce or the UK law. The only time a prosecution seems to get through successfully is if I commit a motoring offence. It's really riling (how reserved I am in my posts tonight - but trust me... the air is blue here)!!
Nice motor Kev,i have to say there are some good 
on here,Gemini,Mungo,Lambocop,to name a few,however most of them are going for easy money and not sorting real crime out,if any cops are going to butt in please don't cos i have lots more things that the west yorks plod have not sorted out
on here,Gemini,Mungo,Lambocop,to name a few,however most of them are going for easy money and not sorting real crime out,if any cops are going to butt in please don't cos i have lots more things that the west yorks plod have not sorted out To be fair to the plods, most of the time for REAL crime in my experience, the law is against them, making it almost pointless to try to get the job done. You would not believe what has happend to my ex-wife over the last week - it's horrific, and "human rights law" makes it impossible for the police to do anything. So the guy will keep marrying women and infecting them (getting there now? - yes its the bad one, three letters starting with H and ending with V) without letting them know. Fortunately, even though she was married to the guy, medical tests state she is safe.
I kind of feel sorry for them when they haven't managed to get me any results (even when they are holding the scums' collars) because of the state of UK law. So focus in boys - motoring offences is something where the law is definitely on their side, and they can pretty much do what they want if they are a "bad cop" like the guy tonight. I still reckon (hope) that those bums are few and far between.
I just hope it wasn't one of the guys on here having a bad day or else I have a ticket coming based on what I have posted so far.... [slime mode] I never denied that I was speeding, just tried to explain the reason why [/slime mode] 
I kind of feel sorry for them when they haven't managed to get me any results (even when they are holding the scums' collars) because of the state of UK law. So focus in boys - motoring offences is something where the law is definitely on their side, and they can pretty much do what they want if they are a "bad cop" like the guy tonight. I still reckon (hope) that those bums are few and far between.
I just hope it wasn't one of the guys on here having a bad day or else I have a ticket coming based on what I have posted so far.... [slime mode] I never denied that I was speeding, just tried to explain the reason why [/slime mode] 
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Human rights law? What he did was horrible, and I'm glad your ex-wife is ok - she was obviously very lucky. Have a look at : -
[url]www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=391418&in_page_id=1770 Daily Mail story[/url] for details of something similar last month. The police CAN and MUST do something about the man in question...if they won't, get in touch with your local MP and urge them to push it. That is nothing short of attempted murder - seriously.
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seefive said:
To be fair to the plods, most of the time for REAL crime in my experience, the law is against them, making it almost pointless to try to get the job done. You would not believe what has happend to my ex-wife over the last week - it's horrific, and "human rights law" makes it impossible for the police to do anything. So the guy will keep marrying women and infecting them (getting there now? - yes its the bad one, three letters starting with H and ending with V) without letting them know. Fortunately, even though she was married to the guy, medical tests state she is safe.
Human rights law? What he did was horrible, and I'm glad your ex-wife is ok - she was obviously very lucky. Have a look at : -
[url]www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=391418&in_page_id=1770 Daily Mail story[/url] for details of something similar last month. The police CAN and MUST do something about the man in question...if they won't, get in touch with your local MP and urge them to push it. That is nothing short of attempted murder - seriously.
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seefive said:
I just do not want to see anyone else get a potentially nasty tug when "supposed" police behave like this.
I just don't know why they behave like this - my attitude towards the Police is definitely scarred by the run-ins I had over motoring issues (I never actually got prosecuted for anything) when I was younger.
Even more recently I had an issue with Bib and wrote a stinking letter to the Chief Con - however a neighbour (who has relatives in the Police) suggested that if I sent it I wouldn't be able to leave home without being stopped.
The suggestion from the Citizens Advice Bureau was to see a lawyer with a potential for GBH. The lawyer stated that the law says that although the guy is HIV positive, it is his "human right" not to tell a partner before having adult relations. The bad news is that this guy was (maybe not now as she has blabbed to a nurse friend at the same place) working in a hospital, and apart from the risk to patients, has apprantly tried to seduce 4 of the nurses in the last year. He has also (unknown to her a the time of her marriage) been married to five different women over the last 5 years, and had numerous affairs. Bit of a nice guy all round.
The only way my wife found out about the true illness was to check out his medicines in books and on the internet. They all pointed to HIV.
He said they were for malaria and denied it for months but although she was in love enough (mug enough) to believe it, she was still suspicious. It was only after he had an affair and the relationship ended that she REALLY pushed it with him and got an answer, and a threat not to tell anyone. She now has a letter form the hospital (dunno how) confirming it. Up until the last two weeks, nobody knew about this walking time bomb - not even his family as he blamed his symptoms on malaria...
I really shouldn't say this, but I really hope he suffers badly in the future of his illness. Just how many people has he given a death sentence so far. Sorry this is way off topic, but it makes my little bad cop problem seem insignificant, and the proves the law that good cops try to uphold to be an ass. Or I guess that the lawyer could be wrong....
The only way my wife found out about the true illness was to check out his medicines in books and on the internet. They all pointed to HIV.
He said they were for malaria and denied it for months but although she was in love enough (mug enough) to believe it, she was still suspicious. It was only after he had an affair and the relationship ended that she REALLY pushed it with him and got an answer, and a threat not to tell anyone. She now has a letter form the hospital (dunno how) confirming it. Up until the last two weeks, nobody knew about this walking time bomb - not even his family as he blamed his symptoms on malaria...
I really shouldn't say this, but I really hope he suffers badly in the future of his illness. Just how many people has he given a death sentence so far. Sorry this is way off topic, but it makes my little bad cop problem seem insignificant, and the proves the law that good cops try to uphold to be an ass. Or I guess that the lawyer could be wrong....
My most recent experience of our local police involved getting stopped for a minor infringement whilst my GF was driving. As the Traffic Officer was explaining the alleged offence( not driving related) a call came over the radio that a taxi driver was being assaulted by several male passengers less than a mile away and they were asked if they could attend. The junior chap commented that they were close and perhaps should go to the drivers assistance (could have been a woman), the chap in charge looked at him, rolled his eyes and said " I think we'll give it a miss, shall we", junior BiB started to comment, saw the look he was being given and shut up, we really couldn't believe it ,Big BiB then spent the next 5 mins giving a very drawn out lecture on the perils of committing the relevant "crime", jumped back into his nice shiny patrol car and left after giving us a warning. When I saw the documentary filmed by the undercover reporter a few months ago it didn't really surprise me as I had seen the prevailing attitudes at first hand.
What I do know, is that it's a very small minority undermining the respect deserved by the majority, but when does this start to wear a bit thin and they are all tarred with the same brush ?
What I do know, is that it's a very small minority undermining the respect deserved by the majority, but when does this start to wear a bit thin and they are all tarred with the same brush ?
I wouldn't worry about goading cops. They can be beaten. It's cops who lie about the circumstances of an arrest, with the aid of a "calibrated" machine, when anyone who understands how it works know that that is b******t that should worry you. Suffice to say I will soon be "KennyPaws"...
Edited by kennyGti on Sunday 16th July 02:08
richycsl said:
That is terrible. Surely people have to know of this monster otherwise he will continue to do what he has been doing.
Edited by richycsl on Sunday 16th July 02:27
The cop was a bit naughty, but I'd hardly call him a monster..... oh I see what you mean...
Well we can't name and shame on here so I am afraid I cannot directly protect anyone close to Basingstoke and Odiham where he is rumoured to be shacked up with another soon to be victim (a not too glamourous, obese 50something woman he met visiting her old mum at the hospital where he works). Strangely enough she has a lot of money and very old, sick parents. I wonder what he sees in her?
kennyGti said:
I wouldn't worry about goading cops. They can be beaten. It's cops who lie about the circumstances of an arrest, with the aid of a "calibrated" machine, when anyone who understands how it works know that that is b******t that should worry you. Suffice to say I will soon be "KennyPaws"...
Edited by kennyGti on Sunday 16th July 02:08
Sorry Kenny - it's a bit late and I am not sure that I have got my head around this completely. What's with KennyPaws? Is your licence leaving you? Back to the paws?? If so, I am sorry to hear that, especially if you do not believe their evidence to be true.
HighwayCode said:
144: Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.
There is a green Skoda Octavia VRS in Stoke that does exactly the same.
The first time he was in front of my in the outside lane of the A34 and for no apparent reason started to slow from 70 to around 50 even though the cars in the inside lane were doing around 60, he pulls in and I overtake and then he pulls out behind me and proceeds to sit so close to the back of my car I couldn't even see his bonnet.
This goes on over the next few roundabouts and when I get a gap I thought I will let this plonker go but then he decides to pull in behind me and do the old boy racer trick of accelerating as hard as he can up behind my car and then braking at the last minute. I was tempted to brake test him when he came roaring up behind my car but thought better of it.
This actually happened to me on three seperate occassions by the same car but different drivers.
If the police are using video evidence then they should be held accountable for this sort of agressive, idiotic driving.
The first time he was in front of my in the outside lane of the A34 and for no apparent reason started to slow from 70 to around 50 even though the cars in the inside lane were doing around 60, he pulls in and I overtake and then he pulls out behind me and proceeds to sit so close to the back of my car I couldn't even see his bonnet.
This goes on over the next few roundabouts and when I get a gap I thought I will let this plonker go but then he decides to pull in behind me and do the old boy racer trick of accelerating as hard as he can up behind my car and then braking at the last minute. I was tempted to brake test him when he came roaring up behind my car but thought better of it.
This actually happened to me on three seperate occassions by the same car but different drivers.
If the police are using video evidence then they should be held accountable for this sort of agressive, idiotic driving.
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