Penalty Points on European Licences

[cliff123]

If a foreign driver who holds a European driving license and owns a british car, gets a speeding ticket, can and do the police persue it (ie: apply penalty points on it), or do they consider it too much hassle and not bother?

Edited by cliff123 on Monday 17th July 14:37

[Dwight Vandriver]

It is the Courts that apply points Cliff - not the Police. Or, in the case of accepting a Conditional Offer, Mags Clerks Office will endorse.

If the person does not hold a UK Licence and convicted of speeding etc in UK then a skelton records will be created from personal details at DVLA on which any points are recorded and can be acted upon for totting etc. Further, as I understand it, any points awarded will also be notified by DVLA to the authority that issued the Licence. Harmonisation is fast approaching within EEC on Traffic offences/punishments.

dvd

[flemke]

cliff123 said:

If a foreign driver who holds a European driving license and owns a british car, gets a speeding ticket, can and do the police persue it (ie: apply penalty points on it), or do they consider it too much hassle and not bother?

I may misconstrue your question, but anyone who is found guilty of a penalty points offence in the UK "gets" points.

If that person doesn't have a UK licence, the DVLA will create a "skeletal" or virtual licence to keep a tally of that person's penalties. It works the same as a normal UK licence does; too many points within a given time and your freedom to drive in the UK is taken away.
Obviously, if you're banned according to the DVLA, you can continue to drive in the physical sense, but if you're then caught driving whilst banned, you may have a bigger problem.

Btw, if the foreign driver is in fact a resident of the UK, after one year's residency he/she is required to get a UK licence.

[Dwight Vandriver]

flemke said:

[quote=cliff123]
Btw, if the foreign driver is in fact a resident of the UK, after one year's residency he/she is required to get a UK licence.

Not if it is a Community (EEC) Licence then :

Provided the licence remains valid you may drive in GB -

Ordinary licence holders
Until aged 70 or for 3 years after becoming resident whichever is the longer period.

They can of course at any time exchange for a UK Licence.

dvd

[Dwight Vandriver]

They will process you as the holder of an UK Licence once that fact is established.

How will they do that - a personal pull or later through various records that they can set up to chase and catch. Hey Hen Pea- R.?

Shortly under Road Safety Bill powers to deal with the like caught in UK by emptying their wallets at the road side......

dvd

Edited by Dwight Vandriver on Monday 17th July 15:48

[flemke]

Dwight Vandriver said:

Ordinary licence holders
Until aged 70 or for 3 years after becoming resident whichever is the longer period.

They can of course at any time exchange for a UK Licence.

dvd,

You're saying that for EEC licence holders, exchange is at the option of the licence holder, but not required?

[vonhosen]

flemke said:

Dwight Vandriver said:

Ordinary licence holders
Until aged 70 or for 3 years after becoming resident whichever is the longer period.

They can of course at any time exchange for a UK Licence.

dvd,

You're saying that for EEC licence holders, exchange is at the option of the licence holder, but not required?

If you hold a valid Community licence & you are visiting Great Britain, you can drive any vehicle for as long as your licence remains valid.


If you have a valid Community licence & you are a resident, this will authorise you to drive in this country for the periods set out below. Alternatively, you can apply to exchange your licence for a British one at any time.

Provided your licence remains valid you may drive in GB -

Ordinary licence holders
Until aged 70 or for 3 years after becoming resident whichever is the longer period.

Vocational licence holders
Until aged 45 or for 5 years after becoming resident whichever is the longer period.

If you are aged over 45 (but under 65) until your 66th birthday or for 5 years after becoming resident whichever is the shorter period.

If you are aged 65 or over for 12 months after becoming resident.

In order to continue driving after these periods, a British driving licence must be obtained.




Oh
And under the Road Safety Bill the facility will exist to issue FPNs to non UK licence holders & demand deposits from those without UK addresses.

Edited by vonhosen on Monday 17th July 17:40

[LRdriver II]

Well guys in the Luton area Scameraship tried to get a friend of mine to send his danish license in for a UK replacement (wrong..as pointed out in this thread ref EU license) and if not they told him to expect a court appearence as they cant "just" bill for 60£ tax. Still waiting... holding breath for 6 months

[cheburator]

Never!!!

Been driving foreign registered cars on foreign number plates in this country for years. Been flashed by cameras on so many instances that I have lost count. Imagine the number of German, Belgian and French cars that set off the cameras along the M20 as it starts from Bexley. If you do it four times a day, then perhaps some BiB might take an interest, but once a week was a pretty safe bet The same applies to the Blackwall Tunnel. Just think about all the Porsches along Lower Thames Str. in London with their Frankfurt registrations... The BiB has no incentive to chase people like me... Being stopped at the road side is a different story...

Alex

Dwight Vandriver said:

They will process you as the holder of an UK Licence once that fact is established.

How will they do that - a personal pull or later through various records that they can set up to chase and catch. Hey Hen Pea- R.?

Shortly under Road Safety Bill powers to deal with the like caught in UK by emptying their wallets at the road side......

dvd

Edited by Dwight Vandriver on Monday 17th July 15:48