V For Vendetta anyone?
Discussion
Having seen V for Vendetta recently it set me thinking.
Does anyone else think we, as a country, are heading for existence in a society of similar design?
Are we there already?
Has our Government already set our feet on the path to V with recent and pending legislation?
Vonhosen, in your unwavering opinion of obedience to the written word of the law. What are your views on the subject?
What about other BiB's?
Have you ever been quietly alarmed about police powers being introduced or proposed, and feared they may 'evolve' further down the line as covert measures to control the populace in a truly Orwellian way?
Does anyone else think we, as a country, are heading for existence in a society of similar design?
Are we there already?
Has our Government already set our feet on the path to V with recent and pending legislation?
Vonhosen, in your unwavering opinion of obedience to the written word of the law. What are your views on the subject?
What about other BiB's?
Have you ever been quietly alarmed about police powers being introduced or proposed, and feared they may 'evolve' further down the line as covert measures to control the populace in a truly Orwellian way?
Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant; vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it's my very good honour to meet you and you may call me V.
xmg5 said:
Having seen V for Vendetta recently it set me thinking.
Does anyone else think we, as a country, are heading for existence in a society of similar design?
Are we there already?
Has our Government already set our feet on the path to V with recent and pending legislation?
Vonhosen, in your unwavering opinion of obedience to the written word of the law. What are your views on the subject?
What about other BiB's?
Have you ever been quietly alarmed about police powers being introduced or proposed, and feared they may 'evolve' further down the line as covert measures to control the populace in a truly Orwellian way?
Does anyone else think we, as a country, are heading for existence in a society of similar design?
Are we there already?
Has our Government already set our feet on the path to V with recent and pending legislation?
Vonhosen, in your unwavering opinion of obedience to the written word of the law. What are your views on the subject?
What about other BiB's?
Have you ever been quietly alarmed about police powers being introduced or proposed, and feared they may 'evolve' further down the line as covert measures to control the populace in a truly Orwellian way?
V for Von I say.
Haven't seen the film yet but plan to. Almost bought the DVD today, but will tomorrow.
vonhosen said:
xmg5 said:
Having seen V for Vendetta recently it set me thinking.
Does anyone else think we, as a country, are heading for existence in a society of similar design?
Are we there already?
Has our Government already set our feet on the path to V with recent and pending legislation?
Vonhosen, in your unwavering opinion of obedience to the written word of the law. What are your views on the subject?
What about other BiB's?
Have you ever been quietly alarmed about police powers being introduced or proposed, and feared they may 'evolve' further down the line as covert measures to control the populace in a truly Orwellian way?
Does anyone else think we, as a country, are heading for existence in a society of similar design?
Are we there already?
Has our Government already set our feet on the path to V with recent and pending legislation?
Vonhosen, in your unwavering opinion of obedience to the written word of the law. What are your views on the subject?
What about other BiB's?
Have you ever been quietly alarmed about police powers being introduced or proposed, and feared they may 'evolve' further down the line as covert measures to control the populace in a truly Orwellian way?
V for Von I say.
Haven't seen the film yet but plan to. Almost bought the DVD today, but will tomorrow.
BliarOut said:
vonhosen said:
xmg5 said:
Having seen V for Vendetta recently it set me thinking.
Does anyone else think we, as a country, are heading for existence in a society of similar design?
Are we there already?
Has our Government already set our feet on the path to V with recent and pending legislation?
Vonhosen, in your unwavering opinion of obedience to the written word of the law. What are your views on the subject?
What about other BiB's?
Have you ever been quietly alarmed about police powers being introduced or proposed, and feared they may 'evolve' further down the line as covert measures to control the populace in a truly Orwellian way?
Does anyone else think we, as a country, are heading for existence in a society of similar design?
Are we there already?
Has our Government already set our feet on the path to V with recent and pending legislation?
Vonhosen, in your unwavering opinion of obedience to the written word of the law. What are your views on the subject?
What about other BiB's?
Have you ever been quietly alarmed about police powers being introduced or proposed, and feared they may 'evolve' further down the line as covert measures to control the populace in a truly Orwellian way?
V for Von I say.
Haven't seen the film yet but plan to. Almost bought the DVD today, but will tomorrow.
Well I bought it.
Edited by vonhosen on Tuesday 8th August 11:13
NugentS said:
Enjoy - I did.
I love the ending - a very good idea IMHO.
Sean
I love the ending - a very good idea IMHO.
Sean
"But wait! It is to Madame Justice that i dedicate this concerto, in honour of the holiday that she seems to have taken from these parts, and in recognition of the imposter that stands in her stead......"
Cue music and a very large explosion.....
"Ha ha ha ha haaaa! Beautiful is it not?"
Great film!
The strange thing for me is:
1. The government is becoming super controlling over its citizens
2. Citizens hate it, which causes V to stand up against it by almost becoming a "terrorist" - setting off bombs etc
Now compare that to our current climate:
1. We have terrorists (or so we believe anyway)
2. The goverment is becoming more controlling of their citizens because of these terrorists
3. Err.. where will that lead? You don't suppose, to the creation of more "terrorists" (who probably won't be nearly as careful as V is about what they blow up)?!
I think proper policework rather than treating everybody like a criminal/number/statistic should be the way forward.
The strange thing for me is:
1. The government is becoming super controlling over its citizens
2. Citizens hate it, which causes V to stand up against it by almost becoming a "terrorist" - setting off bombs etc
Now compare that to our current climate:
1. We have terrorists (or so we believe anyway)
2. The goverment is becoming more controlling of their citizens because of these terrorists
3. Err.. where will that lead? You don't suppose, to the creation of more "terrorists" (who probably won't be nearly as careful as V is about what they blow up)?!
I think proper policework rather than treating everybody like a criminal/number/statistic should be the way forward.
deltafox said:
Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant; vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it's my very good honour to meet you and you may call me V.
Oh sh.., DF's been talking to Der again!!!
Not seen the film yet but I read the comic book on which it was based at the weekend - to prepare myself. One telling panel on the front page has a camera and the sign 'For your protection' underneath it. Yes indeed.
I visit London a fair bit and am constantly amazed at the number of signs telling you what you can't do, cameras watching you and security guards (in a small outlet of Bodyshop for goodness sake!). All depresing. It's lovely to visit but I wouldn't want to live there.
I spent a week in Rome last month - very few cameras, none of those stupid railings to herd people off the roads either. I only realised when I came back that I hadn't seen any. What you do get is bored looking policemen with guns standing around smoking and chatting to the locals and looking cool. I know which I prefer (although possibly without the Berettas).
I visit London a fair bit and am constantly amazed at the number of signs telling you what you can't do, cameras watching you and security guards (in a small outlet of Bodyshop for goodness sake!). All depresing. It's lovely to visit but I wouldn't want to live there.
I spent a week in Rome last month - very few cameras, none of those stupid railings to herd people off the roads either. I only realised when I came back that I hadn't seen any. What you do get is bored looking policemen with guns standing around smoking and chatting to the locals and looking cool. I know which I prefer (although possibly without the Berettas).
deltafox said:
Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant; vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it's my very good honour to meet you and you may call me V.
genius 
Einion Yrth said:
To be honest I think it's more like Terry Gilliam's 'Brazil' than 'V for Vendetta' - still not a societal development that I care for mind.
Haven't seen V, but the Brazil comment is spot on.
Einion Yrth said:
To be honest I think it's more like Terry Gilliam's 'Brazil' than 'V for Vendetta' - still not a societal development that I care for mind.
Spot on about Brazil. V for Vendetta post-dated a supposed 'incident' created by the government to instill fear and panic into the population. For this country to follow suit, the government would have to engineer the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people - I can't quite see that happening tbh.
Parrot of Doom said:
Einion Yrth said:
To be honest I think it's more like Terry Gilliam's 'Brazil' than 'V for Vendetta' - still not a societal development that I care for mind.
Spot on about Brazil. V for Vendetta post-dated a supposed 'incident' created by the government to instill fear and panic into the population. For this country to follow suit, the government would have to engineer the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people - I can't quite see that happening tbh.
I dont know...
... lower speed limits and install more speed camera's? Just keeping it topical
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