In car video - legal question
In car video - legal question
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towman

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14,938 posts

269 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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If you can see a reflection in the windscreen rather than the screen itself, is it still illegal to view?

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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It depends what you are viewing but if you are talking about TV it's viewing directly or by reflection.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

261 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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towman said:
If you can see a reflection in the windscreen rather than the screen itself, is it still illegal to view?

yikes take it the trip back from Robbie was umm.. interesting, then?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

300 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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towman said:
If you can see a reflection in the windscreen rather than the screen itself, is it still illegal to view?


Portable telly on the bed behind you?

Saw a NL wagon the other day, chap had a full blown drip coffee machine on the dashboard.

Made me chortle I have to say.

streaky

19,311 posts

279 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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Plotloss said:
[quote=towman]Saw a NL wagon the other day, chap had a full blown drip coffee machine on the dashboard.

Made me chortle ...
Made him cappuccino - Streaky

towman

Original Poster:

14,938 posts

269 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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Plotloss said:
towman said:
If you can see a reflection in the windscreen rather than the screen itself, is it still illegal to view?


Portable telly on the bed behind you?

Saw a NL wagon the other day, chap had a full blown drip coffee machine on the dashboard.

Made me chortle I have to say.


I coulnn`t possibly comment! DVD player on the engine hump is invisible from the outside.

Edited by towman on Saturday 16th September 12:43

towman

Original Poster:

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Saturday 16th September 2006
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vonhosen said:
It depends what you are viewing but if you are talking about TV it's viewing directly or by reflection.


Why does it depend what you are viewing? What is permitted then?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

300 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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towman said:
vonhosen said:
It depends what you are viewing but if you are talking about TV it's viewing directly or by reflection.


Why does it depend what you are viewing? What is permitted then?


Presumably reversing cams, sat nav that sort of thing?

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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Plotloss said:
towman said:
vonhosen said:
It depends what you are viewing but if you are talking about TV it's viewing directly or by reflection.


Why does it depend what you are viewing? What is permitted then?


Presumably reversing cams, sat nav that sort of thing?


Indeed

Exemptions are
(a) about the state of the vehicle or its equipment;
(b) about the location of the vehicle and the road on which it is located;
(c) to assist the driver to see the road adjacent to the vehicle; or
(d) to assist the driver to reach his destination.

towman

Original Poster:

14,938 posts

269 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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vonhosen said:


Indeed

Exemptions are
(a) about the state of the vehicle or its equipment;
(b) about the location of the vehicle and the road on which it is located;
(c) to assist the driver to see the road adjacent to the vehicle; or
(d) to assist the driver to reach his destination.


So some plonker can drive around a city with his eyes glued to satnav and that`s perfectly legal?

But to have video effectively as a HUD at 3am on a deserted motorway is not? (best i warn my friend)

So I could have a laptop on the dashboard connected to a bulletcam perfectly legally?


7db

6,060 posts

260 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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Think a TV is defined in Regs is a cathode ray tube. Not seen the reg that includes flat screens if there is one?

slightly faster

Original Poster:

14,938 posts

269 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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Oi DVD, can I have some advice on DVDs please?

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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7db said:
Think a TV is defined in Regs is a cathode ray tube. Not seen the reg that includes flat screens if there is one?


Reg 109 does indeed define TV as cathode ray tube, but what the regs say is

Reg 109 said:

109(1) No person shall drive, or cause or permit to be driven, a motor vehicle on a road, if the driver is in such a position as to be able to see, whether directly or by reflection, a television receiving apparatus or other cinematographic apparatus used to display anything other than information:

then the exemptions I listed earlier



Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 16th September 23:56

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

274 months

Sunday 17th September 2006
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Whilst the Regs define just what television receiving apparatus is it does not do so as to what exactly cinematographic apparatus is.

The OED definition implies projection of film which is old hat as we are in the age of digital images through DVD etc.

I cannot answer so have not posted.

Anything other than the exemptions for the driver and even some are suss as there is evidence on here having to look at the speedo is a dangerous departure from the view of the road head especially in BUA.

Fall back on the apple eating offence or driving without reasonable consideration for other persons using the road (i.e. not looking where one is going)?

dvd





Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Sunday 17th September 07:26