written cautions for speeding
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A couple of years ago several professional Sunderland football players were arrested for driving through the town at night firing a BB gun at passers by in the street. Next day they were all kicked out after recieving an official warning from the duty inspector. Probably on that very same day a driver drove through a speed camera in Sunderland about 36 mph , was fined £60 and awarded 3 penalty points. Something stinks doesn't it?
insanojackson said:
I think they actually got a formal caution, as anyone would if it was there first offence and they admitted their guilt. I worked there at the time.
But it does not work that way - except now maybe in Lancs for 33-35 mph after "rebels"
led the way in protest letters over Speed Course offers for this und for only one. There was one bloke who got 9 points in Blackpool for driving along prom at 34-35 mph in 2003. He got Speed Course for one offence und thus saved his licence from tot-up. This case - I think - tipped the scales of protest. They now send out letters for low speeds und offer the course across entire range of limits up to 10% + FIVE! Which ist some improvement - und course ist COAST based..
It was a small victory of a sort.. the ultimate would be in getting police back und no scammerati - but still offer the course based on a more professional judgement
as per a well trained BiB
herewego said:
insanojackson said:
I think they actually got a formal caution, as anyone would if it was there first offence and they admitted their guilt. I worked there at the time.
He has a point though hasn't he? Speeders should also get a caution for their first offence.
I doubt anyone is prosecuted for their first offence, they'll have commited a number before being caught. Even the SCP aren't going to prosecute you for 31 in a 30.
vonhosen said:
herewego said:
insanojackson said:
I think they actually got a formal caution, as anyone would if it was there first offence and they admitted their guilt. I worked there at the time.
He has a point though hasn't he? Speeders should also get a caution for their first offence.
I doubt anyone is prosecuted for their first offence, they'll have commited a number before being caught. Even the SCP aren't going to prosecute you for 31 in a 30.
But surely you could say this about any offence Von...?
"I doubt its their first time..."
Surely its more reasonable [as with other offences] record the offence and issue a caution so you can nail them next time?
It sounds like you are saying "ah well....they probably sped already so bugger 'em"

vonhosen said:
herewego said:
insanojackson said:
I think they actually got a formal caution, as anyone would if it was there first offence and they admitted their guilt. I worked there at the time.
He has a point though hasn't he? Speeders should also get a caution for their first offence.
I doubt anyone is prosecuted for their first offence, they'll have commited a number before being caught. Even the SCP aren't going to prosecute you for 31 in a 30.
Surely giving a caution is a bit different from failing to catch them or ignoring them. I admit I'm ignorant of what a caution is but wouldn't it involve a bit of a chat? An explanation of the offence, of why society finds it unacceptable and a warning that future offences would result in prosecution.
herewego said:
vonhosen said:
herewego said:
insanojackson said:
I think they actually got a formal caution, as anyone would if it was there first offence and they admitted their guilt. I worked there at the time.
He has a point though hasn't he? Speeders should also get a caution for their first offence.
I doubt anyone is prosecuted for their first offence, they'll have commited a number before being caught. Even the SCP aren't going to prosecute you for 31 in a 30.
Surely giving a caution is a bit different from failing to catch them or ignoring them. I admit I'm ignorant of what a caution is but wouldn't it involve a bit of a chat? An explanation of the offence, of why society finds it unacceptable and a warning that future offences would result in prosecution.
A formal caution is for recordable offences, Speeding isn't one.
There is no mechanism for a recordable/searchable warning for the offence, so what you suggest won't happen. That doesn't mean though that a warning isn't an option open to prosecuting authorities, just as NFA is an option open to them.
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