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The Dude

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6,546 posts

277 months

Monday 2nd October 2006
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There's nothing stopping me insuring my son's car in my name (me being the registered keeper, him being 17 and holding a provisional licence) and having him as a named driver is there? I mean, I know people do it, I just wondered what the risks are?

The alternative, £2000+ for insurance, is a little hard to swallow.

kenp

654 posts

278 months

Monday 2nd October 2006
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One of the questions they will ask you is whether the named driver has a full licence.

The Dude

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6,546 posts

277 months

Monday 2nd October 2006
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kenp said:
One of the questions they will ask you is whether the named driver has a full licence.


yes I don't intend to pretend he has a full licence.

johnFairfield

555 posts

246 months

Monday 2nd October 2006
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That's what I did recently.
I was completely open with the insurers and they were happy with the arrangement.
The main problems are that:
1) he wont get any no claims uner his belt (I think that some insulere may be changing that)
2) Any accidents he has may affect your premium.

speedchick

5,288 posts

252 months

Monday 2nd October 2006
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Other half had me put as a named driver with a provisional on his insurance, apparently the fact I am female and over 25 helped keep it down to a reasonable level.

Also, if I stayed claim free for a year, could mirror his no claims when I insured in my own name.

The Dude

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6,546 posts

277 months

Monday 2nd October 2006
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So are there no issues with the fact that I have another car and am insured as the main driver on that?

Just wondering because someone pointed me to this thread where an insurance cancelled their policy under similar conditions.

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=311850&f=57&h=0

Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Monday 2nd October 2006
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Don't the forms usually ask whether the proposer will be the main driver? If they do ask that and you say no, they will asssume he is the main driver anyway and I should think they would then hike the premium.

In any case, when is he going to start building an NCD if he is not the main driver on a policy?

The insurance companies tend to get you whichever route you choose.

The Dude

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6,546 posts

277 months

Monday 2nd October 2006
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Zod said:
Don't the forms usually ask whether the proposer will be the main driver? If they do ask that and you say no, they will asssume he is the main driver anyway and I should think they would then hike the premium.

In any case, when is he going to start building an NCD if he is not the main driver on a policy?

The insurance companies tend to get you whichever route you choose.


Isn't there an insurer who give NCD to named drivers? I know I've seen the advert on TV but can't remember the name of the company.

Major Bloodnok

1,561 posts

245 months

Monday 2nd October 2006
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When our son was learning, we put him on the insurance as a named driver, no probs. When he passed his test, though, the premium went up dramatically. It seems to be quite reasonable in terms of premium to put a learner on the insurance since they can't (legally) drive the car unsupervised. It's when they are allowed out on their own that the bank account starts groaning.

tigger1

8,476 posts

251 months

Monday 2nd October 2006
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The Dude said:
Zod said:
Don't the forms usually ask whether the proposer will be the main driver? If they do ask that and you say no, they will asssume he is the main driver anyway and I should think they would then hike the premium.

In any case, when is he going to start building an NCD if he is not the main driver on a policy?

The insurance companies tend to get you whichever route you choose.


Isn't there an insurer who give NCD to named drivers? I know I've seen the advert on TV but can't remember the name of the company.


It's the one that doesn't use a switchboard, you can call them on direct, urrmm....line*, I think.

gridgway

1,001 posts

275 months

Monday 2nd October 2006
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I found with my 17 yr old (girl) in the same circs that it was actually as cheap to get insurance in her name with me and mrs gridgway as named drivers. Without one of us as a named driver it was very expensive! This was from her 17th birthday when she had a provisional licence. I am the reg keeper of the car. When asked questions about main driver, I didn't actually answer yes/no as in the case of a shared car, who is the main driver? I prob use it least number of times, but do trips so the mileage is higher, mrs gridgway and daughter gridgway use it about the same for frequent mostly short trips.

So I described exactly the use and Elephant were very helpful. We did have a change of car and they did try to tell me that the main driver needed to be the same as the reg keeper, but when questioned they said that they didn't need to be.

Mind you I'm told that boys are much more expensive to insure!

Graham

The Dude

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6,546 posts

277 months

Monday 2nd October 2006
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Some good info, thanks.

justin1230smith

86 posts

257 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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I stopped a car the other day in a similar position, the problem for that driver was that the insurance company had asked, "are you the owner and main user of the vehicle" to which dad had said, "yes" and there we are with a lowered, window tinted, low profile tyred 205 with a driver who lives away from home ?

The question of "owner" I suppose is debateable, if dad paid is he the owner ? - if dad has no control of the car, no say about how it is modernised, (in fact no knowledge as son lives away from home) then would a court believe him to be the owner ?

The question of "main user" was easy to deal with

Remember if that driver has an accident it is your policy it gets claimed on so you will have to declare "have you ever had a claim in the past 5 years" next time you renew your policy.

Personally, not that I am in love with insurance companies, but they give a quote based on a risk and if they are being kept in the dark about the true risk then that seems a little underhand ? - Just my view in my rosey pink perfect world (with no kids LOL )

P.S We just took images and informed the insurance company and left it to them to deal with their newly discovered risk.

eccles

14,399 posts

252 months

Friday 6th October 2006
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"P.S We just took images and informed the insurance company and left it to them to deal with their newly discovered risk."

are police allowed to do that? under what grounds?

(i'm not having a go, but just interested.)

The Dude

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6,546 posts

277 months

Friday 6th October 2006
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justin1230smith said:
I stopped a car the other day in a similar position, the problem for that driver was that the insurance company had asked, "are you the owner and main user of the vehicle" to which dad had said, "yes" and there we are with a lowered, window tinted, low profile tyred 205 with a driver who lives away from home ?

The question of "owner" I suppose is debateable, if dad paid is he the owner ? - if dad has no control of the car, no say about how it is modernised, (in fact no knowledge as son lives away from home) then would a court believe him to be the owner ?

The question of "main user" was easy to deal with

Remember if that driver has an accident it is your policy it gets claimed on so you will have to declare "have you ever had a claim in the past 5 years" next time you renew your policy.

Personally, not that I am in love with insurance companies, but they give a quote based on a risk and if they are being kept in the dark about the true risk then that seems a little underhand ? - Just my view in my rosey pink perfect world (with no kids LOL )

P.S We just took images and informed the insurance company and left it to them to deal with their newly discovered risk.


In my own situation a) he doesn't live away from home and b) if he ended up with tinted windows, flash wheels or low profile tyres, it would've been me who paid for them so they wouldn't have gone on the car without my knowledge.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Friday 6th October 2006
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The Dude said:
There's nothing stopping me insuring my son's car in my name (me being the registered keeper, him being 17 and holding a provisional licence) and having him as a named driver is there? I mean, I know people do it, I just wondered what the risks are?

The alternative, £2000+ for insurance, is a little hard to swallow.


As long as you answer truthfully all questions asked then they are aware of the risk & the decision is theirs (such as who is the main user ?)

If he has any collisions on you policy, for future disclosures he will have to divulge any collision & you any claim as a result of the use.

Edited by vonhosen on Friday 6th October 09:46

ALEX1982

5,207 posts

240 months

Saturday 7th October 2006
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Please phone Adrian flux and ask for Rob in the red hat. He'll sort you out.