RE: MP calls for speed limit cut
RE: MP calls for speed limit cut
Thursday 19th October 2006

MP calls for speed limit cut

Read speed limit signs in kilometres, she says


70kph?
70kph?
We could all be driving around at 5/8ths of today's speeds, if the daft idea of one MP is adopted. Or maybe not...

MP for Llanelli Nia Griffith wants UK speed signs to be read in kilometres rather than miles, thus cutting the speed limits on all of Britain's roads by nearly half. The aim is to save money -- no new signposts to put up -- and energy, as we'd all drive really slowly. Griffiths also claimed it would make the roads safer.

PistonHeads thinks this is a great idea. Since no-one would obey such a crazy, unpoliceable change in the limit, especially on Britain's safest roads, the motorways, people would travel at the speed at which they find most comfortable.

On most motorways, that settles down to about 90mph. The result would be no more accidents than before, despite officially speeding by twice the limit.

It would provide a concrete demonstration that enforcing fixed speed limits, regardless of the conditions, is truly pointless. Then maybe we could move on towards a more realistic speed limit policy.

Maybe?

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Lord-Flasheart

Original Poster:

6,636 posts

244 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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"Griffiths also claimed it would make the roads safer."


Where is her evidence for this?

Edited by Lord-Flasheart on Thursday 19th October 10:38

jack&mle

626 posts

269 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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lock him in a asylum.
it what he needs

Jack

jmorgan

36,010 posts

314 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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He's a her.

bad_roo

5,196 posts

267 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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Why on earth do we elect these crackpots?

We get the politicians we deserve...

Shadytree

8,291 posts

279 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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paperbag

Bet she's a volvo driver

Lord-Flasheart

Original Poster:

6,636 posts

244 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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If you think about it people are use to MPH, and if you change it to KM/H then Im guessing that most people would spend their time looking at the speedometer to make sure they aren't above the limit.

Nostrils

103 posts

257 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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Must be the silly season! UK cars do have both readouts on the speedo, but its hard to see and if Eire has anything to go by, people had to pay themselves to get their cars converted when they went to KPH - New cars are now supplied with KPH!!

As said before, lock him up for a long time!

mondeohdear

2,046 posts

245 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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She's obviously a total nutcase if she thinks anybody would obey those ridiculous speed limits. 43mph on the motorway and 12.5mph outside schools. Why not insist on a man with a red flag walking in front of cars as well. NUTTER ALERTsilly!!!!!

Neil_c

61 posts

261 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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These ideas should really be saved for 1st April, but while we are at it why dont we all tie a politician to each bumper to soften the blow of any impact.

mondeohdear

2,046 posts

245 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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Let's not make this personal. It's politics.

Edited by PetrolTed on Thursday 19th October 12:37

timberwolf

5,374 posts

248 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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No, that's just inane. It's the kind of thing a five year old would say, shortly before a parent replies, "Don't be silly, darling."

As for 43mph being economical, has she ever driven a car? My experience of all the cars I've driven has been that either they can't pull 5th/overdrive top comfortably at less than 45-50mph, can pull the gear but labour unecessarily, or they're automatics in which the torque convertor doesn't lock up until you're doing 50-ish.

They don't magically get linearly more economical the slower you drive!

With the number of outbursts in this manner, I am beginning to give some serious consideration to the view mentioned before on Pistonheads, that what they're really worried about is the fact that I, along with most car owners, could jump in my car now and be almost anywhere in the country by the end of the day, a situation which is entirely abhorrent to some of the control freaks at the reins.

7db

6,060 posts

260 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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Why has noone responded that we think the numbers should actually mean metres per second rather than km/h?

That gives you a full 156mph (read it and weep, Mark Milton) on a previously 70mph section.

XTR2Turbo

1,538 posts

261 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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I read Kph signs as mph when overseas. Don't like this idea though

AlexH

2,505 posts

314 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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bad_roo said:
Why on earth do we elect these crackpots?

We get the politicians we deserve...


Her constitutents got the politician they deserved by voting for the vacuous bint. Unfortunately its truism of politics that by them getting what they deserved, we also get it too.

tigger1

8,476 posts

251 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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And in other news: -

press release said:

The MP for Llanelli Nia Griffith, was left red faced today when a joke news story that was meant for April 1st was released on a top UK motoring forum.

The 'gag' was that motorists should drive at almost half the current speed limits, and was actually an ironic attempt to point out how stupid and arbitrary a lot of current limits are - but this was wasted on many people due to the stupid and arbitrary nature of most MPs.



Edited by tigger1 on Thursday 19th October 11:22

Tafia

2,658 posts

278 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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Shadytree said:
paperbag

Bet she's a volvo driver



Hey so am I . I got up to 60 yesterday!

chickensoup

469 posts

285 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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I think this is only fair

I am not the only one who obeys European roadsigns in MPH, so as a reciprocal act all those foreign lorry drivers who pay absolutely no attention to speed limits should be made to obey our signs in KPH

_deano

7,414 posts

283 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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Ahhhhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha. rofl

Twincam16

27,647 posts

288 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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timberwolf said:

As for 43mph being economical, has she ever driven a car? My experience of all the cars I've driven has been that either they can't pull 5th/overdrive top comfortably at less than 45-50mph, can pull the gear but labour unecessarily, or they're automatics in which the torque convertor doesn't lock up until you're doing 50-ish.

They don't magically get linearly more economical the slower you drive!


yes

I don't get this dim-witted simplistic notion from non-driving politicians that the slower you drive, the less fuel you use. Is that why the 'urban cycle' always returns very low mpg figures and 'highway mileage' is the highest?

And then there's that sad excuse that 70mph is some kind of 'tipping point' for fuel economy - no it isn't, it's merely the motorway speed limit and you've found another excuse to make money.

Fuel economy at speed depends on different things that vary from car to car - weight, fuel type, induction method, engine configuration, transmission type, aerodynamic drag coefficient, which way the wind's blowing, whether the aircon's on, how many electronic devices the car's running, which gear the driver chooses to be in, how much luggage is being carried - and I'm sure there are many more.

But no, the politicians ignore all that and say that if you go over 70mph on a motorway you kill the planet. Oh, right-o then rolleyes

Twincam16

27,647 posts

288 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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Let's not make it personal. You know what trouble that can land us in.

Edited by PetrolTed on Thursday 19th October 12:38