Discussion
Some of these, if you know where you're going, are really rather good shortcuts (the one I'm thinking of in paticular is the middle one on the M11 between 9 and 8, but I can think of a couple on the M25 and there are probably quite a few more). Yet they have the red prohibition sign that I understand to mean no vehicles.
Questions:
1. What is the penalty for using these?
2. Is it likely to be enforced? I don't see the problem with turning the hard sholder into a slip road for a bit and using these as alternative junctions, there's no way that even if I were to brake down in a very unlucky position on them I could possibly be blocking emergency access.
I'm not asking about some of the other works exits, like the ones that lead to military bases / power stations / loads of police cars in strange yards that I've also discovered.
Finally, are there any websites about these works exits? If not I think it would be quite interesting to start one.
Questions:
1. What is the penalty for using these?
2. Is it likely to be enforced? I don't see the problem with turning the hard sholder into a slip road for a bit and using these as alternative junctions, there's no way that even if I were to brake down in a very unlucky position on them I could possibly be blocking emergency access.
I'm not asking about some of the other works exits, like the ones that lead to military bases / power stations / loads of police cars in strange yards that I've also discovered.
Finally, are there any websites about these works exits? If not I think it would be quite interesting to start one.
edit to change junction numbers to make sense
Edited by imbecile on Saturday 21st October 05:29
7db said:
If you do the website, don't forget the back exits to service stations...
Won't be too many of them - more excuses by the motels on them than there are for cameras( and for similar silly reasons) -- Watford Gap - "Watford was becoming a rat run -kids MIGHT get hurt"( Don't drive through my village) or Corley - "too much car theft by people locally" --(the crims could always park outside and walk in - .)
vim fuego said:
7db said:
Driving on the hard shoulder.
don't forget the back exits to service stations...
don't forget the back exits to service stations...
though they are wising up and putting barriers across, Knutsford services an example though at Sandbach you still have free access
'Twas possible to access/egress Birch Services (M62, between Junctions 18 and 19) - memory says it was Westbound but I would have to visit to check, nowadays there's a clearly-visible barrier on Whittle Lane - using their 'service road' until about a decade ago... there's a barrier nowadays. That map isn't quite accurate though - some scrote lost on the fruit machines and burnt the place down, and the last time I was there (December 2005?) it was still prefabs...
If one didn't mind ignoring a 'Service Vehicles Only' sign, then that was a good one to use to bail out if the motorway was slow or even stationary (not unknown
).imbecile said:
Finally, are there any websites about these works exits? If not I think it would be quite interesting to start one.
The closest thing I'm aware of is Alan Turnbull's Secret Bases website. Although it should be said that this is directed more towards the glaring discrepancies between the information appearing on Ordance Survey maps and the ariel photographs we can get so easliy from the Internet. I live near one of the Aldermaston sites which until recently didn't appear on the maps, even though I used to drive past it everyday!
You can see most of the discussion under the heading of 'secret motorway jnctions'. It's towards the bottom of this page: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/alan-tur
Seems pretty clear that the vast majority are used as emergency slip roads (and turnarounds for junctions) for use by emergency vehicles.
Edited by duncanthemad on Monday 23 October 10:38
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