(New) Road Traffic Act
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BUT, how can this be?
I mean, 35mph in a 30 is akin to robbing a pensioner, and slicing 3 small children and making them into pate...
Surely, ROAD SAFETY cannot be demeaned in this way, reducing the punishment?!?!??!
Where will it end??!!??! I mean, soon we will have traffic police enforcing road safety by stopping people driving dangerously, BUT not making money in fines. And we can't have that.
I mean, 35mph in a 30 is akin to robbing a pensioner, and slicing 3 small children and making them into pate...
Surely, ROAD SAFETY cannot be demeaned in this way, reducing the punishment?!?!??!
Where will it end??!!??! I mean, soon we will have traffic police enforcing road safety by stopping people driving dangerously, BUT not making money in fines. And we can't have that.
jasandjules said:
BUT, how can this be?
I mean, 35mph in a 30 is akin to robbing a pensioner, and slicing 3 small children and making them into pate...
Surely, ROAD SAFETY cannot be demeaned in this way, reducing the punishment?!?!??!
Where will it end??!!??! I mean, soon we will have traffic police enforcing road safety by stopping people driving dangerously, BUT not making money in fines. And we can't have that.
I mean, 35mph in a 30 is akin to robbing a pensioner, and slicing 3 small children and making them into pate...
Surely, ROAD SAFETY cannot be demeaned in this way, reducing the punishment?!?!??!
Where will it end??!!??! I mean, soon we will have traffic police enforcing road safety by stopping people driving dangerously, BUT not making money in fines. And we can't have that.
OOOOOH You cynic
ashes said:
Ah, an end to the days of 'a little over the limit' on the M1
Anyone noticed average Mway speeds are way up lately? And doesn't seem any more dangerous.
Cruise control and caffeine tabs on order
Anyone noticed average Mway speeds are way up lately? And doesn't seem any more dangerous.
Cruise control and caffeine tabs on order
Well guys, with the decline of the Police and GPS devices telling you where fixed cameras are, I think the chances of being done are pretty small. Only really dangerous things are the talivans, and how common are they?!
Plus anyone potentially getting six points from a single FP speeding on the 2nd Tier will surely fight it....especially people who already had 6 points. That should push the court lists up nicely. It's still a ratio of lions and wilderbeest out there...you're unlikely to be eaten if you keep your wits about you...
J.
Peter Ward said:
jezzaaa said:
.....Only really dangerous things are the talivans, and how common are they?!....
J.
J.
Far far far too common!
Talking of Talivans, I spotted one on my way out of London yesterday afternoon. He was set up on the other side ripping off cars going London bound. He was located on the left as cars exited the short tunnel (the one before the Limehouse tunnel) - where its come down from 40mph to a 30mph and before it goes back to 40mph
not seen one there before so be careful
you can almost smell talivans these days though.......
Hmm, nice empty road that should be a NSL is a 30.
right, I'll be doing 30 then, cruise control on.
never seen a talivan on a motorway at 70MPH,
saw one on the M62 towards hull, but that was 50. infact, the 50 signs were put out 3 weeks before there was any sign of roadworks, ie the motorway was completely unchanged apart from the makeshift 50 signs, oh, and the talivans on the bridges.
Hmm, nice empty road that should be a NSL is a 30.
right, I'll be doing 30 then, cruise control on.
never seen a talivan on a motorway at 70MPH,
saw one on the M62 towards hull, but that was 50. infact, the 50 signs were put out 3 weeks before there was any sign of roadworks, ie the motorway was completely unchanged apart from the makeshift 50 signs, oh, and the talivans on the bridges.
I've not seen any evidence that the ACPO guidelines for prosecution are about to be dropped by the scammers.
The authorities aren't going to let on that you're likely to get away with less than 35 in a 30, etc. Just instead of getting 3 points for 36 in a 30, you'll now get 2.
I do hope that nobody proves me wrong on this one, mind!
The authorities aren't going to let on that you're likely to get away with less than 35 in a 30, etc. Just instead of getting 3 points for 36 in a 30, you'll now get 2.
I do hope that nobody proves me wrong on this one, mind!
alphadog said:
The authorities aren't going to let on that you're likely to get away with less than 35 in a 30, etc. Just instead of getting 3 points for 36 in a 30, you'll now get 2.
Which means you can get caught 6 times instead of 4. Allowing such reckless and life threatending motorists to remain on the road too long is surely a terrible tragedy. That will be at least 12 children slaughtered instead of just 8. Won't somebody PLEEEEAAAASE think of the children...........
Or, does it show that they simply want more money. The more times we are caught, the more tax we pay.
Gixer said:
Peter Ward said:
jezzaaa said:
.....Only really dangerous things are the talivans, and how common are they?!....
J.
J.
Far far far too common!
Talking of Talivans, I spotted one on my way out of London yesterday afternoon. He was set up on the other side ripping off cars going London bound. He was located on the left as cars exited the short tunnel (the one before the Limehouse tunnel) - where its come down from 40mph to a 30mph and before it goes back to 40mph
not seen one there before so be careful
What tunnel do you mean Gixer? I go through the Limehouse Link every day and can't think where you mean.
alphadog said:
I've not seen any evidence that the ACPO guidelines for prosecution are about to be dropped by the scammers.
The authorities aren't going to let on that you're likely to get away with less than 35 in a 30, etc. Just instead of getting 3 points for 36 in a 30, you'll now get 2.
I do hope that nobody proves me wrong on this one, mind!
The authorities aren't going to let on that you're likely to get away with less than 35 in a 30, etc. Just instead of getting 3 points for 36 in a 30, you'll now get 2.
I do hope that nobody proves me wrong on this one, mind!
The RTA doesn't specify the limits...it leaves the GOVERNMENT free to decide the tolerances/limits for each offence.
So...given what we know about our rabidly anti-libertarian (at least for anyone not an ethnic minority!) lords and masters, I give it about 3 months before they criminalise 32 or 33mph in a 30. And 75 on a M-way if we're unlucky!!!
Of course, at this rate, my regular A-road single-carriageway cruise of 75+ will result in me being hung, drawn and quartered...before I kill all those hundreds of children!
Martin (1 (minor) RTA in 14+ years and >200,000 miles of driving...rear ended by an impatient tw't while trying to get out of his way.)
vonhosen said:
Yep
The tiers are 2 points, 3 points & 6 points (with fines on a sliding scale as well).
The tiers are 2 points, 3 points & 6 points (with fines on a sliding scale as well).
Cheers VH.
Any thoughts on how prosecutions citing precise speeds will stand? Won't this open the doors still wider to defendants challenging the interpretation of evidence to the tiniest fraction of mph?
This has been suggested and would need for an SI to make law as this not defined under the RS Bill
Low Penalty £40 and 2 points
30 limit up to 39mph
40 - 50mph
50 - 61mph
60 - 72mph
70 - 83mph
Standard Penalty £60 ands 3 points
30 limit 40 -44mph
40 51 -56pmh
50 62 - 69mph
60 73 - 81mph
70 84 - 93mph
Higher penalty £100 and 6 points
30 limit - 45 mph and above
40 - 57mph and above
50 - 70mph and above
60 - 82 mph and above
70 - 94 mph and above
Again may I point out this is a scale that was suggested.
There is no information at what stage Court proceedings would kick in.
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Low Penalty £40 and 2 points
30 limit up to 39mph
40 - 50mph
50 - 61mph
60 - 72mph
70 - 83mph
Standard Penalty £60 ands 3 points
30 limit 40 -44mph
40 51 -56pmh
50 62 - 69mph
60 73 - 81mph
70 84 - 93mph
Higher penalty £100 and 6 points
30 limit - 45 mph and above
40 - 57mph and above
50 - 70mph and above
60 - 82 mph and above
70 - 94 mph and above
Again may I point out this is a scale that was suggested.
There is no information at what stage Court proceedings would kick in.
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