"Spike" Average speed cameras
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Anyone picked up on these chaps?
A new generation of speed cameras capable of calculating how fast a car has been travelling over any distance could be on the roads within months.
The Spike system differs from both the Gatso cameras which flash cars as they go past and the costly Specs devices which are normally used to judge drivers' speed over a prolonged stretch of road.
Specs (Speed Check Enforcement System) costs several hundred thousand pounds, which has deterred some safety camera partnerships.
The alternative system, which has been submitted to the Home Office for approval, costs around £20,000. It is also portable, which would allow the cameras to be shifted to newly identified accident blackspots or road works. If approved, it could lead to the number of average speed safety camera systems soaring from the 14 in operation at present.
The new camera has been produced by Pips Technology, of Eastleigh, Hants, which already supplies digital number plate recognition cameras to a number of police forces.
Andrew Howard, the head of road safety at the AA Motoring Trust, said: "The great advantage with these cameras is that you can use them for long, nasty, curly stretches of road, rather than picking up motorists at odd points.
"They are particularly good on single carriageway roads, where people tend to go too fast and drive into trees or become involved in overtaking accidents. So these cameras can cut down on a lot of this behaviour."
The weakness of the average speed cameras was when a stretch of road was long enough for people to turn off, or join, at some point between the two cameras.
Paul Smith, a campaigner against speed cameras, said: "Oh dear, at that sort of price, it will lead to a proliferation which will be horrifying.
"This will lead to people looking at their speedometers every couple of seconds, rather than looking at the road.
"It is the massively expensive cost of the Specs system that has stopped it being introduced more widely.
AD-UK said:
A new generation of speed cameras capable of calculating how fast a car has been travelling over any distance could be on the roads within months.
The Spike system differs from both the Gatso cameras which flash cars as they go past and the costly Specs devices which are normally used to judge drivers' speed over a prolonged stretch of road.
Specs (Speed Check Enforcement System) costs several hundred thousand pounds, which has deterred some safety camera partnerships.
The alternative system, which has been submitted to the Home Office for approval, costs around £20,000. It is also portable, which would allow the cameras to be shifted to newly identified accident blackspots or road works. If approved, it could lead to the number of average speed safety camera systems soaring from the 14 in operation at present.
The new camera has been produced by Pips Technology, of Eastleigh, Hants, which already supplies digital number plate recognition cameras to a number of police forces.
Andrew Howard, the head of road safety at the AA Motoring Trust, said: "The great advantage with these cameras is that you can use them for long, nasty, curly stretches of road, rather than picking up motorists at odd points.
"They are particularly good on single carriageway roads, where people tend to go too fast and drive into trees or become involved in overtaking accidents. So these cameras can cut down on a lot of this behaviour."
The weakness of the average speed cameras was when a stretch of road was long enough for people to turn off, or join, at some point between the two cameras.
Paul Smith, a campaigner against speed cameras, said: "Oh dear, at that sort of price, it will lead to a proliferation which will be horrifying.
"This will lead to people looking at their speedometers every couple of seconds, rather than looking at the road.
"It is the massively expensive cost of the Specs system that has stopped it being introduced more widely.
There is another thread running on this at
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=1&f=10&t=315453&h=0
I didn't notice before either - it was only when I did a google search for info that I found the thread!
The Pip Technology web site talks about ANPR use, but nothing about speed - but apparently it has been tested and found to work.
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=1&f=10&t=315453&h=0
I didn't notice before either - it was only when I did a google search for info that I found the thread!
The Pip Technology web site talks about ANPR use, but nothing about speed - but apparently it has been tested and found to work.
Lestcos have these in store now to supposedly prevent people overstaying in the car park. All that technology and expense so they can issue a few £75 fines.
What else do they want it for? Anybody got a suggestion? The store already has dozens and dozens of cameras so what are they gaining to warrant the huge investment?
Boosted.
What else do they want it for? Anybody got a suggestion? The store already has dozens and dozens of cameras so what are they gaining to warrant the huge investment?
Boosted.
I have asked for clarification from PIPS about the speeding thing, as I think this is wrong.
Boosted, as far as the lestco's are concerned, they sub the parking enforcement out to a third party to keep it at arms length, who profit from it, and it keeps the all-day parkers out of the supermarket.
Boosted, as far as the lestco's are concerned, they sub the parking enforcement out to a third party to keep it at arms length, who profit from it, and it keeps the all-day parkers out of the supermarket.
randlemarcus said:
I have asked for clarification from PIPS about the speeding thing, as I think this is wrong.
Boosted, as far as the lestco's are concerned, they sub the parking enforcement out to a third party to keep it at arms length, who profit from it, and it keeps the all-day parkers out of the supermarket.
Boosted, as far as the lestco's are concerned, they sub the parking enforcement out to a third party to keep it at arms length, who profit from it, and it keeps the all-day parkers out of the supermarket.
I know but a man with a clip board could do this as proved by bazzdahs
I don't quite see how there will be a profit. Boosted.
boosted Ls1 said:
randlemarcus said:
I have asked for clarification from PIPS about the speeding thing, as I think this is wrong.
Boosted, as far as the lestco's are concerned, they sub the parking enforcement out to a third party to keep it at arms length, who profit from it, and it keeps the all-day parkers out of the supermarket.
Boosted, as far as the lestco's are concerned, they sub the parking enforcement out to a third party to keep it at arms length, who profit from it, and it keeps the all-day parkers out of the supermarket.
I know but a man with a clip board could do this as proved by bazzdahs
I don't quite see how there will be a profit. Boosted.
Easy. 1000 cars in per hour, say 10 dont leave after 3, 10 demands for £50, five pay = £250. times five, to allow overlap, times six = £7500 per day, times 100 sites.
Fancy a crack at it?
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