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Hiya
Bit of a long shot here....
Does anyone know what the law is regarding HGV (it's actually a scoffold truck) parking at night.
Can the truck be park on a 30mph road, at night, with street lighting without any side lights on?
any help would be great...thanks
Bit of a long shot here....
Does anyone know what the law is regarding HGV (it's actually a scoffold truck) parking at night.
Can the truck be park on a 30mph road, at night, with street lighting without any side lights on?
any help would be great...thanks
Edited by mudskipper on Thursday 16th November 20:17
do you know of anywhere it states that?
My stepdad bring his truck home about once a month....last time he left the truck at the top of our road as usual, without lights on and got a ticket for it.
He's parked up again tonight and had a call from the yard, saying someone had complained he'd parked with no lights on again.
The truck is clearly parked under streetlights (an with a bright orange crane on it you cant miss it anyways)
My stepdad bring his truck home about once a month....last time he left the truck at the top of our road as usual, without lights on and got a ticket for it.
He's parked up again tonight and had a call from the yard, saying someone had complained he'd parked with no lights on again.
The truck is clearly parked under streetlights (an with a bright orange crane on it you cant miss it anyways)
mudskipper.
offence against RVLR 1989 Part III section 24.
I'll not post the entire text here as this legislation is a model of clarity.... not.
Essentially the vehicles which can park without obligatory position lights in certain circumstances acc para 7 above referenced legislation are
(a) a motor vehicle being a goods vehicle the unladen weight of which does not exceed 1525 kg;
(b) a passenger vehicle other than a bus;
(c) an invalid carriage; and
(d) a motor cycle or a pedal cycle in either case with or without a sidecar;
The only way I can see that a scaffold lorry could be parked without obligatory lights illuminated is if it complies with sub para 9c
(c) a vehicle which is parked in an area on part of a highway on which roadworks are being carried out and which is bounded by amber lamps and other traffic signs so as to prevent the presence of the vehicle, its load or equipment being a danger to persons using the road.
OK?
FiF
offence against RVLR 1989 Part III section 24.
I'll not post the entire text here as this legislation is a model of clarity.... not.
Essentially the vehicles which can park without obligatory position lights in certain circumstances acc para 7 above referenced legislation are
(a) a motor vehicle being a goods vehicle the unladen weight of which does not exceed 1525 kg;
(b) a passenger vehicle other than a bus;
(c) an invalid carriage; and
(d) a motor cycle or a pedal cycle in either case with or without a sidecar;
The only way I can see that a scaffold lorry could be parked without obligatory lights illuminated is if it complies with sub para 9c
(c) a vehicle which is parked in an area on part of a highway on which roadworks are being carried out and which is bounded by amber lamps and other traffic signs so as to prevent the presence of the vehicle, its load or equipment being a danger to persons using the road.
OK?
FiF
Under Regulation 24 of the Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989
It is an offence to allow to remain at rest, or cause or permit to be allowed to remain at rest on a road, any vehicle between sunset and sunrise (or in seriously reduced visibility) unless every
(a) front position lamp,
(b) rear position lamp,
(c) rear registration plate lamp,
(d) side marker lamp and end-outline lamp,
is kept lit and unobscured.
EXCEPTIONS
Vehicles of certain classes may lawfully park on roads where the speed limit is 30mph or less:
(i) a goods vehicle unladen weight not exceeding 1525kg,
(ii) passenger vehicle other than a bus,
(iii) invalid carriage,
(iv) motor cycle or pedal cycle with or without a sidecar.
If a trailer is attached, or the vehicle is carrying a load which requires lamps, the exemption does not apply.
Parking without lights is permitted in (only for vehicles listed above)
(i) designated parking places on roads; or
(ii) a lay-by which is clearly shown to be such; or
(iii) elsewhere, provided, if the vehicle is parked on a one-way street, it is facing in the correct direction on either side of the road as close as possible to the kerb or, if it is parked on an ordinary road, it is properly parked and facing the correct way, and in either case no part of the vehicle is less than 10 metres from a junction with the road upon which it is parked, whether the junction is on the same side of the road or not.
Another offence that HGVs get ticketed for overnight is breaching overnight commercial vehicle waiting bans (where they exist).
It is an offence to allow to remain at rest, or cause or permit to be allowed to remain at rest on a road, any vehicle between sunset and sunrise (or in seriously reduced visibility) unless every
(a) front position lamp,
(b) rear position lamp,
(c) rear registration plate lamp,
(d) side marker lamp and end-outline lamp,
is kept lit and unobscured.
EXCEPTIONS
Vehicles of certain classes may lawfully park on roads where the speed limit is 30mph or less:
(i) a goods vehicle unladen weight not exceeding 1525kg,
(ii) passenger vehicle other than a bus,
(iii) invalid carriage,
(iv) motor cycle or pedal cycle with or without a sidecar.
If a trailer is attached, or the vehicle is carrying a load which requires lamps, the exemption does not apply.
Parking without lights is permitted in (only for vehicles listed above)
(i) designated parking places on roads; or
(ii) a lay-by which is clearly shown to be such; or
(iii) elsewhere, provided, if the vehicle is parked on a one-way street, it is facing in the correct direction on either side of the road as close as possible to the kerb or, if it is parked on an ordinary road, it is properly parked and facing the correct way, and in either case no part of the vehicle is less than 10 metres from a junction with the road upon which it is parked, whether the junction is on the same side of the road or not.
Another offence that HGVs get ticketed for overnight is breaching overnight commercial vehicle waiting bans (where they exist).
Edited by vonhosen on Thursday 16th November 20:48
Excellent...i found some info, but not with as much content as what you guys have found...thank you to you both!
I'll let him know when he gets back home.
As for if he's allowed to park there....i would assume that his compnay wouldn't allow him to bring the truck home if he wasn't? possibly?
I'll let him know when he gets back home.
As for if he's allowed to park there....i would assume that his compnay wouldn't allow him to bring the truck home if he wasn't? possibly?
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
mudskipper said:
As for if he's allowed to park there....i would assume that his compnay wouldn't allow him to bring the truck home if he wasn't? possibly?
I wouldn't bet on that one!
Yeah thats true1 anythin for a few extra quid seems to be most companies ideas
tvradict said:
Still yes. Even at night, as long as its a 30mph with Streetlighting there is no need for Side Lights.
It's a bit worrying that your profile says you're a truck driver and you very confidently answered 'yes' but the answers clearly no.
I know when I was a kid, HGV's used to park in a long line across the from my parents house, with lights on the front and back truck. There was hell to play when a car was driven into the middle of the line not realising there were unlit trucks there.
deva link said:
tvradict said:
Still yes. Even at night, as long as its a 30mph with Streetlighting there is no need for Side Lights.
It's a bit worrying that your profile says you're a truck driver and you very confidently answered 'yes' but the answers clearly no.
I was too polite to say that. Must be getting old.
Which leads me on to suggesting that VH is not going to get an answer to his question, "Is the road subject to a commercial vehicle overnight waiting ban.?"
I mean, if the level of knowledge is such that it isn't known that parking without lights is not allowed for that class of vehicle, what is the chance that the presence or otherwise of such a waiting restriction is known about?
To whomever it may concern, that last comment is definitely not meant to be derogatory nor a put down, just hopefully an objective and unspecific observation of the general state of things out there. No offence is intended and sincerely hope none taken.
Well no offence apart from the original lighting offence. Arf Arf!
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