ANPR how cool is that
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Had my first (and hopefully last) opportunity to sit in a full loaded TrafPol Volvo with ANPR yesterday.
Whilst I was giving my details and being breathalysed etc. I noticed a rather swanky video screen showing all the cars that were coming up from behind the Volvo. It was capturing the number plates of each and every one in real time.
The top off the screen showed video of the cars passing and another part of the screen showed the captured number plate. It even recognised one plate on a white van that was dangling at about 45 degrees!
Interestingly about 2 cars got pinged for future interest.
All this going on whilst the RTC was being dealt with.
I have to say I'm very envious of the BiB for having such a Joe 90/Batman car - I've never seen so many gadgets and giszmos!
And thanks again to the TrafPol BiB for their speedy assistance in sorting out the RTC - and the HATO boys for securing the roads.
FG
Whilst I was giving my details and being breathalysed etc. I noticed a rather swanky video screen showing all the cars that were coming up from behind the Volvo. It was capturing the number plates of each and every one in real time.
The top off the screen showed video of the cars passing and another part of the screen showed the captured number plate. It even recognised one plate on a white van that was dangling at about 45 degrees!
Interestingly about 2 cars got pinged for future interest.
All this going on whilst the RTC was being dealt with.
I have to say I'm very envious of the BiB for having such a Joe 90/Batman car - I've never seen so many gadgets and giszmos!
And thanks again to the TrafPol BiB for their speedy assistance in sorting out the RTC - and the HATO boys for securing the roads.
FG
You'll find that the BiB are noticably reticent in talking about how good ANPR technology is in open forum.
I know that TVP are bordering on the paranoid when it comes to the privacy concerns of an incident like the one you describe -- a MoP seeing the system flagging plates.
It is rather good...
I know that TVP are bordering on the paranoid when it comes to the privacy concerns of an incident like the one you describe -- a MoP seeing the system flagging plates.
It is rather good...
7db said:
You'll find that the BiB are noticably reticent in talking about how good ANPR technology is in open forum.
I know that TVP are bordering on the paranoid when it comes to the privacy concerns of an incident like the one you describe -- a MoP seeing the system flagging plates.
It is rather good...
I know that TVP are bordering on the paranoid when it comes to the privacy concerns of an incident like the one you describe -- a MoP seeing the system flagging plates.
It is rather good...
No its not
Do ALL police traffic cars have this whizzo technology, or just ones belonging to certain forces?
I'd LOVE the opportunity to spend an afternoon with officers doing such a job. Partially as a techno-fiend, interested in the use of technology to do something that wouldn't otherwise be possible, and partially because I would love to see a bunch of scrotes nicked!
Oli.
I'd LOVE the opportunity to spend an afternoon with officers doing such a job. Partially as a techno-fiend, interested in the use of technology to do something that wouldn't otherwise be possible, and partially because I would love to see a bunch of scrotes nicked!
Oli.
john57 said:
There is a button to turn the screen off when you have someone sitting in the car ... I guess they were a bit busy dealing with the accident and forgot to press it ... oops 
I did wonder about that - but BiB actually made no bones about and actually said when one got pinged - we'll get them later.
No concerns at all about me spotting Mrs Miggings and her drug dealing habits
zcacogp said:
WHoah - why all the negative comments? I can understand why people are anti-Gatso, but ANPR is (or so I'm told) designed to catch scrotes who drive with no tax, insurance or MOT. Nobbling these cars is of interest to us all, isn't it?
Sounds good doesn't it?
But how long will it be before criminals realise that all they have to do to avoid capture is to show a legit numberplate? Then what? ANPR is useless and we've corrupted the vehicle registration process.
It'll all end in tears, mark my words.
safespeed said:
Sounds good doesn't it?
But how long will it be before criminals realise that all they have to do to avoid capture is to show a legit numberplate? Then what? ANPR is useless and we've corrupted the vehicle registration process.
It'll all end in tears, mark my words.
True, true and all true. But how long will it be before criminals realise that all they have to do to avoid capture is to show a legit numberplate? Then what? ANPR is useless and we've corrupted the vehicle registration process.
It'll all end in tears, mark my words.
If this is the case, is the SafeSpeed official line that ANPR is not a good idea?
What is your proposed solution to the increasing number of cars being driven without insurance/tax/MOT? (Not having a go - I support SS, but am curious).
Oli.
zcacogp said:
I'd LOVE the opportunity to spend an afternoon with officers doing such a job.
You need Hughesiecop
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=225869&f=23&h=0&hw=Hughesiecop
zcacogp said:
safespeed said:
Sounds good doesn't it?
But how long will it be before criminals realise that all they have to do to avoid capture is to show a legit numberplate? Then what? ANPR is useless and we've corrupted the vehicle registration process.
It'll all end in tears, mark my words.
True, true and all true. But how long will it be before criminals realise that all they have to do to avoid capture is to show a legit numberplate? Then what? ANPR is useless and we've corrupted the vehicle registration process.
It'll all end in tears, mark my words.
If this is the case, is the SafeSpeed official line that ANPR is not a good idea?
What is your proposed solution to the increasing number of cars being driven without insurance/tax/MOT? (Not having a go - I support SS, but am curious).
Oli.
Make it cheaper and easier to be legal. I doubt that many people decide deliberately to drive uninsured - they do it because the risk/expenditure equation is heavily weighted to "risk it". You can reverse that weighting either by increasing the risk or by reducing the expenditure.
Increasing the risk involves ever more monitoring, tightening laws, criminalising more and more people for minor infractions and running the risk of future authorities misusing the technology. reducing the expenditure is more complex, but could be helped by improving driver skill levels such that insurance costs are reduced by reducing the number of accidents involving the insurance companies actually paying out.
OK, flame-proof hat on...
zcacogp said:
What is your proposed solution to the increasing number of cars being driven without insurance/tax/MOT? (Not having a go - I support SS, but am curious).
Uninsured driving is WAY out of control. DfT says 2 million uninsured. Cops are nicking less than 200,000 pa (I think still). And most of those nicked are back on the road in another throw away vehicle in a week or two. We're not even scratching the surface. And it's all EXPENSIVE. £1 billion on the MIB. Who knows how many hundreds of millions on Policing.
So I think it's time to admit failure. Stick a third party insurance premium on the cost of motor fuel. Claw back ALL the resources that uninsured driving wastes. No more uninsured driving. Sorted.
safespeed said:
So I think it's time to admit failure. Stick a third party insurance premium on the cost of motor fuel. Claw back ALL the resources that uninsured driving wastes. No more uninsured driving. Sorted.
I agree with you in Principal, but why should the higher mileage drivers (who i guess is the vast majority of people who are insured anyway) be taxed higher than your average criminal who would just drive off without paying for his fueal anyway?
Hughesie II said:
safespeed said:
So I think it's time to admit failure. Stick a third party insurance premium on the cost of motor fuel. Claw back ALL the resources that uninsured driving wastes. No more uninsured driving. Sorted.
I agree with you in Principal, but why should the higher mileage drivers (who i guess is the vast majority of people who are insured anyway) be taxed higher than your average criminal who would just drive off without paying for his fueal anyway?
Perhaps because it's the 'least worst' way forwards?
I'd so love to hear a better idea.
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