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old news, big in bolton for while
featured on radio five live yonks ago
guy interviewed thought it was genuiune crash with the usual neck holding, then five minutes later saw the same people in a retail park laughing/joking and in no discomfort, so got a disposable camera took photos and took it from there - police etc large gang smashed
toni896 said:
a lot of the car - car nes could be by keeping a decent gap
Unfortunately they tend to cut in front of you and stand on the anchors causing a rear-end shunt. If there are no other witnesses you'll have a hard time proving what happened.
Edited by monkeyhanger on Thursday 11th January 15:38
toni896 said:
Trev Mc D, did a peice on this a while back, and while some of the staged accidents could not be avoided esp those involving trucks, a lot of the car - car nes could be by keeping a decent gap
It doesn't work like that Toni,
they disconnect the brake lights and you don't see it coming.
Believe me you should try this as an experiment, on a piece of waste land I hasten to add!
If a vehicle is in front of you and the brake lights don't come on, you only realise it at the very last second when it's too late to react.
jith said:
toni896 said:
Trev Mc D, did a peice on this a while back, and while some of the staged accidents could not be avoided esp those involving trucks, a lot of the car - car nes could be by keeping a decent gap
It doesn't work like that Toni,
they disconnect the brake lights and you don't see it coming.
Believe me you should try this as an experiment, on a piece of waste land I hasten to add!
If a vehicle is in front of you and the brake lights don't come on, you only realise it at the very last second when it's too late to react.
I can see that a lack of brake lights makes life more difficult for a following driver, but if you pay attention and maintain a decent gap I would have thought you'd still be able to cope adequately.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
TripleS said:
I can see that a lack of brake lights makes life more difficult for a following driver, but if you pay attention and maintain a decent gap I would have thought you'd still be able to cope adequately.
Try it. I think you will find it more difficult than you realise. If you are following someone at the regulation 2 second gap and they brake hard without warning with no brake lights you will have no visual warning at all. If they are cleverer they will brake slowly initially to bring you closer, by the time you realise they are slowing the gap could be down to 1.5 seconds, and as there are no brake lights you ease off. They slam on the brakes, still no brake lights and you stand no chance.
havoc said:
Apparently a big issue in N. Ireland too.
I guess I'm still naive because I just can't get the mentality of some people that they're prepared to harm others just to get some money.
I guess I'm still naive because I just can't get the mentality of some people that they're prepared to harm others just to get some money.
Me too then, because it seems to me that these days some people will do anything if there is money to be made and they can get away with it.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
I have lost count of the number of cars/vans I see driving around with no brake lights. I'm not sure whether it is just really poor maitenance on their behalf or whether it is alot more malicious.
Either way I can vouch for the fact that it does make it more difficult to stop when the person infront has no brake lights whether it be gradual braking or a stamp on the brakes.
Just recently I was approaching a mini roundabout with 4 exits, I arrived and there was no-one to my left or right but a smart car straight ahead who had also stopped. I joined the roundabout in first gear as I had previously come to a standstill, he then proceeded to join as I was halfway across and then wrenched the wheel over and such a manner that I can only describe it as purposely trying to hit me.
Luckily the car was justing coming onto boost and I accelerated out of danger. Once I had left the roundabout I looked in my rear-view mirror and saw the said smart car make one complete revolution of the roundabout only to continue in the direction that he was orignally travelling.
I failed to see why he would join the roundabout, wrench the wheel over in such a manner, and then continue in the same direction unless he had every intention of driving into the side of me and then claiming I caused the accident.
Be careful out there!
Either way I can vouch for the fact that it does make it more difficult to stop when the person infront has no brake lights whether it be gradual braking or a stamp on the brakes.
Just recently I was approaching a mini roundabout with 4 exits, I arrived and there was no-one to my left or right but a smart car straight ahead who had also stopped. I joined the roundabout in first gear as I had previously come to a standstill, he then proceeded to join as I was halfway across and then wrenched the wheel over and such a manner that I can only describe it as purposely trying to hit me.
Luckily the car was justing coming onto boost and I accelerated out of danger. Once I had left the roundabout I looked in my rear-view mirror and saw the said smart car make one complete revolution of the roundabout only to continue in the direction that he was orignally travelling.
I failed to see why he would join the roundabout, wrench the wheel over in such a manner, and then continue in the same direction unless he had every intention of driving into the side of me and then claiming I caused the accident.
Be careful out there!
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