Parking Tickets.

[Rednut05]

Walking back to my car I saw what seemed to be a parking attendant looking around the front of my car. I waited till he had gone, walked over to my car and so no indication that I had got a parking fine or anything.

Do they just come through the post now or is it still a notification on the windscreen?

David

[Dwight VanDriver]

Technically they should stick a ticket on the vehicle or hand to the driver except London where they can accept evidence by camera and where prevented from doing so.

Were you illegally parked on the road/off street park/private land?.

Were you committing an offence?

If they are to proceed then next thing should be a letter through the door "Notice to the Owner" with bad news.

dvd

[crazypb]

Perhaps he thought better of it when he saw the bits of the traffic warden's uniform hanging off the bumper?

[Scraggles]

saw some undercover tv program where they admitted setting up drivers for tickets even though they driven off, had one making notes by my car, so asked him what he was doing, seems he was more interested in the car on the corner of the road on single yellow lines

[bi9_jk]

Is a ticket still valid if its under the windscreen since its not actually stuck

[Dwight VanDriver]

Where, in the case of a stationary vehicle in a designated parking place, a parking attendant has reason to believe that a penalty charge is payable with respect to the vehicle, he may—
(a) fix a penalty charge notice to the vehicle; (not further defined)

RTA 1991

Seems it could be on the roof, backwindow, you name it anywhere. Practice seems to dictate front windscreen.

dvd

[who me ?]

Another one for DVD -recently a certain supermarket has brought in ECP and i've had a couple of "notes" attached when our granddaughter has come with us. Technically she exceeds 1.35m, so no seat needed.Both times the only spaces (in the general parking area) available were next to badly parked 4x4 ,so i opted for the parent spaces ,mostly empty.
On both occasions i have asked the store how parking attendant discriminates between genuine users with kids of 9 over 1.35m/genuine users with a baby in a self contained seat , those elderly who though not entitled to a disabled space need more door opening space (and should/could be treated with discretion) and the out and out abusers.
No answer, or verging toward "rules is rules"
Now question - if i get ticket for "no child seat" --could /would i be able to ignore it and challenge ECP to prove that the RK was driving??

[justinp1]

[quote=who me ?]Another one for DVD -recently a certain supermarket has brought in ECP and i've had a couple of "notes" attached when our granddaughter has come with us. Technically she exceeds 1.35m, so no seat needed.Both times the only spaces (in the general parking area) available were next to badly parked 4x4 ,so i opted for the parent spaces ,mostly empty.
On both occasions i have asked the store how parking attendant discriminates between genuine users with kids of 9 over 1.35m/genuine users with a baby in a self contained seat , those elderly who though not entitled to a disabled space need more door opening space (and should/could be treated with discretion) and the out and out abusers.
No answer, or verging toward "rules is rules"
Now question - if i get ticket for "no child seat" --could /would i be able to ignore it and challenge ECP to prove that the RK was driving??[/quote]

Yes.

Firstly, what would the offence be? Are the signs clear and legally enforcable?

Secondly, they would write to the registered keeper. If the registered keeper continued to ignore the letters, what would happen?

The company would give up, or (very unlikely) summons the registered keeper to court.

The registered keepers defence is that they were not driving the car. The registered keeper does not have a contract with the company. Case fails.

[Dwight VanDriver]

Your now into the realms of 'private parking' nowt to do with Plod or LA under RTActs and a civil matter of which I only know a little. Better brains on this site please step forward.

Supermarket should have the 'rules' that they are having enforced so try and see them.

As stated these arramngements are civil and there is a school of thought that by parking it is the' driver' that enters into the agreement/contract. If ECP follows up with a 'Notice to Owner' about the infringement then it is not the Reg Keeper but the driver that is responsible. There is no civil law as far as I am aware that makes the RK liable. Neither is there anything at law that makes the RK disclose who the driver was like LA Parking.

dvd

[tigger1]

Dwight VanDriver said:

Your now into the realms of 'private parking' nowt to do with Plod or LA under RTActs and a civil matter of which I only know a little. Better brains on this site please step forward.

Would agree with that and say that dealing with private enforcement is a lottery. Writing back and telling them to foxtrot oscar (for specified reasons) is a good start though.