Police Response to Fatal Hit and Run

[r32]

Well some of you may have seen on the news the horrible story of a fatal hit in run here in Huddersfield last week. A young lad was killed in broad daylight on or close to a pedestrian crossing.

Unfortunately it seems there were few or no witnesses, as the police have not traced the hit and run driver as yet. They have identifed it was a rover 200 though.

So as they have been unable to trace the culpret of the hit and run, can anyone guess what the next action of the local BiB has been?


Well, you probably guessed correctly... there is now a BiB with a speedgun pinging drivers close to the scene of the fatality. I'm sure thats really going to help catch the hit and run river

Poor show.

[trax]

Its all about perception.

We all know that the cop with the speedgun will not prevent an accident, but the residents think that it will, hence the police dont get any stick for not doing anything.

[R_U_LOCAL]

I can assure you that the work going on behind the scenes to trace the offending driver will be extensive. A fatal fail-to-stop accident is run along exactly the same lines as a murder these days. A senior detective will be appointed senior investigating officer and they will have a team of detectives and traffic officers working flat-out to catch the driver. Forensic samples, such as paint fragments from the body and debris from the scene, take time to analyse, and although there may be no direct witnesses to the accident, plenty of statements will be taken in order to build up a picture about what happened leading up to the accident.

Just because you don't see this work doesn't mean it isn't going on.

Edited by R_U_LOCAL on Monday 19th March 12:48

[tvrgit]

Also - has it occured to you that the general speed of traffic might be a factor of evidence if they do nab someone for the hit and run and he gets to court?

But hey, let's dive to conclusions eh?

[safespeed]

Before you all jump on the OP too hard, there are broader issues to consider.

- Many members of the public have become disillusioned with the Police over unnecessary speed enforcement. From what I can see, the public is absolutely right and Police resources have been systematically misdirected for years. The perception that 'speed enforcement is the solution to everything' is a true reflection of the public's daily experience; that's because speed enforcement is so highly visible while other aspects of Policing are not.

- It's important for the Police to manage their relationship with the public. This means doing the right thing and being seen to do the right thing.

- The BiB here should be doing what they can to redress this crisis of confidence. Despite the probablity that the OP is wrong about what the Police are up to, nevertheless his perception is commonplace and of vital importance. What can you do as individuals or collectively to make this better?

- I know that the main problems come from on high, at the Home Office and at the DfT, but if we don't tell them they will ignore it forever.

[r32]

tvrgit said:

Also - has it occured to you that the general speed of traffic might be a factor of evidence if they do nab someone for the hit and run and he gets to court?

But hey, let's dive to conclusions eh?

I think they would more likely use those strip thingys across the roads for that, as one BiB with one speed gun is going to have difficulty recording the speed of all cars, and computing an average. Besides he was pulling people, so its more than just data collection.

I guess I just get sick of the first response to any accident being speeding was the cause. I dont even blame the individual BiB as he will have been assigned that task by his superiors, probably because locals were saying 'well cars are always speeding down that road'....

My annoyance is that as there are no witnesses, no-one can know what the cause was, or whether speeding was involved - yet the first action seems to be to be 'speedings the problem, so lots go catch more speeders'.

That might make the locals happy (except me), but its not going to help the family of the dead boy find justice for their son.

[BO55 VXR]

Whilst the BiB are standing there with the gun, they could also be on the look out for the offending vehicle.. Who knows, the car may come round again..

[WildCat]

BO55 VXR said:

Whilst the BiB are standing there with the gun, they could also be on the look out for the offending vehicle.. Who knows, the car may come round again..

I doubt it. These cars usually end up burnt out somewhere way out of town.

Mad Doc made a point of choosing one regional paper und reporting each incident as reported in this paper. All incidents were hit und runs.. Of these 15 or so .. GMP copped two .. one ended up in court.

So far all these cars ended up as burnt out heaps somewhere on outskirts of town. I would suggest then that West Yorks police go up into the hills around Huddersfield und look for a wrecked abandoned car

[EDLT]

What can they do if there wasn't any witnesses, how many Rover 200s are there on the roads and the car was probably stolen, untaxed and uninsured so it won't appear on any records and neither will the "owner".

[SIDAORB]

There are also huge issues with people coming forward with information, there will be people who know who the driver was but are too scared to come forward.

We had a similar incident about 5 years ago in Oxford the BiB's know the driver must have been local and must have been known on the estate it happened, but despite massive appeals and lots of press etc on the anniversary of the youngsters death no-one has yet come forward with any info.

It must be heartbreaking for the families that they cant see closure to there nightmare.

Did anyone see the programme on BBC2 last night about the police investigation and subsequent court case etc on a fatacc. I only caught the last 15 mins but from what I saw was very interesting.

Carl

[herewego]

SIDAORB said:

There are also huge issues with people coming forward with information, there will be people who know who the driver was but are too scared to come forward.

We had a similar incident about 5 years ago in Oxford the BiB's know the driver must have been local and must have been known on the estate it happened, but despite massive appeals and lots of press etc on the anniversary of the youngsters death no-one has yet come forward with any info.

It must be heartbreaking for the families that they cant see closure to there nightmare.

Did anyone see the programme on BBC2 last night about the police investigation and subsequent court case etc on a fatacc. I only caught the last 15 mins but from what I saw was very interesting.

Carl

Yes it was interesting. Young lad pushing too hard, clipped a car and ran off the road killing a woman pedestrian. Interesting to see some of the investigation and how they decided to prosecute for death by dangerous driving. He got four years inside. Shame the lad didn’t take part in the programme as it would have interesting to hear his point of view.

[so8]

WildCat said:

BO55 VXR said:

Whilst the BiB are standing there with the gun, they could also be on the look out for the offending vehicle.. Who knows, the car may come round again..

I doubt it. These cars usually end up burnt out somewhere way out of town

Oddly suspects do have a habit of coming back to the scene - a strange kind of curiousity ...... exactly how you pick them out even if they do return is another matter !