Let's focus on the hard crimes, shall we?
Discussion
On today's Auto Express website here: www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/207694/fine_cheats_cars_set_to_be_seized.html
I guess this will finally nail the US embassy cars, for which no fines have ever been paid as the US considers the charge to be a tax! I'd love to see that one in the courts
BTW, isn't it nice that for a small £200 fee, "honest motorists" will be able to stave off the carjack for a few days? This is for motorists who are "genuinely unaware", ie. essentially innocent. £200 charge to protest your innocence? Nice little earner for someone
Auto Express said:
Fine cheats' cars set to be seized
Three strikes and out. That's the Government's new no-tolerance approach to motorists flouting road rules
By Julie Sinclair
30th March 2007
New rules will make it easy for authorities to lift cars of drivers who fail to pay three parking or traffic fines in a row
It's penning new regulations which will give traffic wardens the power to seize vehicles if the registered owner has failed to pay three parking or traffic fines in a row, and has not made an appeal. This already applies to an estimated 50,000 drivers in London. When the new rules come into effect, they would have days to pay up, or lose their wheels.
Once owners hit the three outstanding fines mark, they would be placed on a persistent evaders' database, according to Transport for London (TfL). The cars could then be immediately lifted from anywhere - even driveways - and owners would have 56 days to clear their debt, before their vehicle is sold. However, a TfL spokesman insisted that it wasn't trying to target honest motorists who were genuinely unaware they had been accruing fines.
"If they've recently bought a car and the keeper details haven't been transferred, for example, they could pay a £200 bond to stop it being towed. This would give them time to get the paperwork up to date," he said.
Drivers of foreign registered cars will also be targeted by the Transport for London and London Local Authorities Bill, which is still passing through Parliament. They often slip through the net, as it is difficult to trace them back to their home country.
The new rules are currently only planned for London, and are being put in place to catch motorists trying to dodge paying the congestion charge.
Three strikes and out. That's the Government's new no-tolerance approach to motorists flouting road rules
By Julie Sinclair
30th March 2007
New rules will make it easy for authorities to lift cars of drivers who fail to pay three parking or traffic fines in a row
It's penning new regulations which will give traffic wardens the power to seize vehicles if the registered owner has failed to pay three parking or traffic fines in a row, and has not made an appeal. This already applies to an estimated 50,000 drivers in London. When the new rules come into effect, they would have days to pay up, or lose their wheels.
Once owners hit the three outstanding fines mark, they would be placed on a persistent evaders' database, according to Transport for London (TfL). The cars could then be immediately lifted from anywhere - even driveways - and owners would have 56 days to clear their debt, before their vehicle is sold. However, a TfL spokesman insisted that it wasn't trying to target honest motorists who were genuinely unaware they had been accruing fines.
"If they've recently bought a car and the keeper details haven't been transferred, for example, they could pay a £200 bond to stop it being towed. This would give them time to get the paperwork up to date," he said.
Drivers of foreign registered cars will also be targeted by the Transport for London and London Local Authorities Bill, which is still passing through Parliament. They often slip through the net, as it is difficult to trace them back to their home country.
The new rules are currently only planned for London, and are being put in place to catch motorists trying to dodge paying the congestion charge.
I guess this will finally nail the US embassy cars, for which no fines have ever been paid as the US considers the charge to be a tax! I'd love to see that one in the courts
BTW, isn't it nice that for a small £200 fee, "honest motorists" will be able to stave off the carjack for a few days? This is for motorists who are "genuinely unaware", ie. essentially innocent. £200 charge to protest your innocence? Nice little earner for someone
Peter Ward said:
On today's Auto Express website here: www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/207694/fine_cheats_cars_set_to_be_seized.html
I guess this will finally nail the US embassy cars, for which no fines have ever been paid as the US considers the charge to be a tax! I'd love to see that one in the courts
BTW, isn't it nice that for a small £200 fee, "honest motorists" will be able to stave off the carjack for a few days? This is for motorists who are "genuinely unaware", ie. essentially innocent. £200 charge to protest your innocence? Nice little earner for someone
Auto Express said:
Fine cheats' cars set to be seized
Three strikes and out. That's the Government's new no-tolerance approach to motorists flouting road rules
By Julie Sinclair
30th March 2007
New rules will make it easy for authorities to lift cars of drivers who fail to pay three parking or traffic fines in a row
It's penning new regulations which will give traffic wardens the power to seize vehicles if the registered owner has failed to pay three parking or traffic fines in a row, and has not made an appeal. This already applies to an estimated 50,000 drivers in London. When the new rules come into effect, they would have days to pay up, or lose their wheels.
Once owners hit the three outstanding fines mark, they would be placed on a persistent evaders' database, according to Transport for London (TfL). The cars could then be immediately lifted from anywhere - even driveways - and owners would have 56 days to clear their debt, before their vehicle is sold. However, a TfL spokesman insisted that it wasn't trying to target honest motorists who were genuinely unaware they had been accruing fines.
"If they've recently bought a car and the keeper details haven't been transferred, for example, they could pay a £200 bond to stop it being towed. This would give them time to get the paperwork up to date," he said.
Drivers of foreign registered cars will also be targeted by the Transport for London and London Local Authorities Bill, which is still passing through Parliament. They often slip through the net, as it is difficult to trace them back to their home country.
The new rules are currently only planned for London, and are being put in place to catch motorists trying to dodge paying the congestion charge.
Three strikes and out. That's the Government's new no-tolerance approach to motorists flouting road rules
By Julie Sinclair
30th March 2007
New rules will make it easy for authorities to lift cars of drivers who fail to pay three parking or traffic fines in a row
It's penning new regulations which will give traffic wardens the power to seize vehicles if the registered owner has failed to pay three parking or traffic fines in a row, and has not made an appeal. This already applies to an estimated 50,000 drivers in London. When the new rules come into effect, they would have days to pay up, or lose their wheels.
Once owners hit the three outstanding fines mark, they would be placed on a persistent evaders' database, according to Transport for London (TfL). The cars could then be immediately lifted from anywhere - even driveways - and owners would have 56 days to clear their debt, before their vehicle is sold. However, a TfL spokesman insisted that it wasn't trying to target honest motorists who were genuinely unaware they had been accruing fines.
"If they've recently bought a car and the keeper details haven't been transferred, for example, they could pay a £200 bond to stop it being towed. This would give them time to get the paperwork up to date," he said.
Drivers of foreign registered cars will also be targeted by the Transport for London and London Local Authorities Bill, which is still passing through Parliament. They often slip through the net, as it is difficult to trace them back to their home country.
The new rules are currently only planned for London, and are being put in place to catch motorists trying to dodge paying the congestion charge.
I guess this will finally nail the US embassy cars, for which no fines have ever been paid as the US considers the charge to be a tax! I'd love to see that one in the courts
BTW, isn't it nice that for a small £200 fee, "honest motorists" will be able to stave off the carjack for a few days? This is for motorists who are "genuinely unaware", ie. essentially innocent. £200 charge to protest your innocence? Nice little earner for someone
Doesn't sound much different to what you could expect in some other countries, what's the problem ?
I'd expect there to also be some facility for you to check if there were outstanding fines against a vehicle when you go to buy it.
vonhosen said:
Peter Ward said:
On today's Auto Express website here: www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/207694/fine_cheats_cars_set_to_be_seized.html
I guess this will finally nail the US embassy cars, for which no fines have ever been paid as the US considers the charge to be a tax! I'd love to see that one in the courts
BTW, isn't it nice that for a small £200 fee, "honest motorists" will be able to stave off the carjack for a few days? This is for motorists who are "genuinely unaware", ie. essentially innocent. £200 charge to protest your innocence? Nice little earner for someone
Auto Express said:
Fine cheats' cars set to be seized
Three strikes and out. That's the Government's new no-tolerance approach to motorists flouting road rules
By Julie Sinclair
30th March 2007
New rules will make it easy for authorities to lift cars of drivers who fail to pay three parking or traffic fines in a row
It's penning new regulations which will give traffic wardens the power to seize vehicles if the registered owner has failed to pay three parking or traffic fines in a row, and has not made an appeal. This already applies to an estimated 50,000 drivers in London. When the new rules come into effect, they would have days to pay up, or lose their wheels.
Once owners hit the three outstanding fines mark, they would be placed on a persistent evaders' database, according to Transport for London (TfL). The cars could then be immediately lifted from anywhere - even driveways - and owners would have 56 days to clear their debt, before their vehicle is sold. However, a TfL spokesman insisted that it wasn't trying to target honest motorists who were genuinely unaware they had been accruing fines.
"If they've recently bought a car and the keeper details haven't been transferred, for example, they could pay a £200 bond to stop it being towed. This would give them time to get the paperwork up to date," he said.
Drivers of foreign registered cars will also be targeted by the Transport for London and London Local Authorities Bill, which is still passing through Parliament. They often slip through the net, as it is difficult to trace them back to their home country.
The new rules are currently only planned for London, and are being put in place to catch motorists trying to dodge paying the congestion charge.
Three strikes and out. That's the Government's new no-tolerance approach to motorists flouting road rules
By Julie Sinclair
30th March 2007
New rules will make it easy for authorities to lift cars of drivers who fail to pay three parking or traffic fines in a row
It's penning new regulations which will give traffic wardens the power to seize vehicles if the registered owner has failed to pay three parking or traffic fines in a row, and has not made an appeal. This already applies to an estimated 50,000 drivers in London. When the new rules come into effect, they would have days to pay up, or lose their wheels.
Once owners hit the three outstanding fines mark, they would be placed on a persistent evaders' database, according to Transport for London (TfL). The cars could then be immediately lifted from anywhere - even driveways - and owners would have 56 days to clear their debt, before their vehicle is sold. However, a TfL spokesman insisted that it wasn't trying to target honest motorists who were genuinely unaware they had been accruing fines.
"If they've recently bought a car and the keeper details haven't been transferred, for example, they could pay a £200 bond to stop it being towed. This would give them time to get the paperwork up to date," he said.
Drivers of foreign registered cars will also be targeted by the Transport for London and London Local Authorities Bill, which is still passing through Parliament. They often slip through the net, as it is difficult to trace them back to their home country.
The new rules are currently only planned for London, and are being put in place to catch motorists trying to dodge paying the congestion charge.
I guess this will finally nail the US embassy cars, for which no fines have ever been paid as the US considers the charge to be a tax! I'd love to see that one in the courts
BTW, isn't it nice that for a small £200 fee, "honest motorists" will be able to stave off the carjack for a few days? This is for motorists who are "genuinely unaware", ie. essentially innocent. £200 charge to protest your innocence? Nice little earner for someone
Doesn't sound much different to what you could expect in some other countries, what's the problem ?
I'd expect there to also be some facility for you to check if there were outstanding fines against a vehicle when you go to buy it.
What's the problem? It'll merely more encourage people to run around in unregistered 'disposable' cars.
vonhosen said:
Doesn't sound much different to what you could expect in some other countries, what's the problem ?
I'd expect there to also be some facility for you to check if there were outstanding fines against a vehicle when you go to buy it.
I'd expect there to also be some facility for you to check if there were outstanding fines against a vehicle when you go to buy it.
This is targeted against those who don't pay the congestion charge. So someone fails to pay 3 charges (£24) and their car is taken away from their private property, and then after 56 days is sold. Isn't there some regulation that says that the punishment should be proportionate to the crime?
Is there "some facility" to check if there are outstanding fines? Would this be picked up by an HPI check? Or an AA survey? Or is there a DVLA search that you can pay for?
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