Fined for small number plate!
Discussion
Earlier I was followed for half a mile by a marked car. I pulled into private property and got out.
The policeman parked along side me and said he saw my "small plate". It is small but still..... should I really be fined £30?
Anything I can do to avoid the fine? It's only £30 but its the point of the matter! On his radio at the same time he was called because 3 youths were racing around without helmets on their mopeds..... obviously my number plate is more important
He didn't have a ruler with him and I hardly think he has calibrated eyes! Also, can the Police fine you on private property? Not like the car was on public road at the time.
Mike
The policeman parked along side me and said he saw my "small plate". It is small but still..... should I really be fined £30?
Anything I can do to avoid the fine? It's only £30 but its the point of the matter! On his radio at the same time he was called because 3 youths were racing around without helmets on their mopeds..... obviously my number plate is more important
He didn't have a ruler with him and I hardly think he has calibrated eyes! Also, can the Police fine you on private property? Not like the car was on public road at the time.
Mike
T5SOR said:
Earlier I was followed for half a mile by a marked car. I pulled into private property and got out.
The policeman parked along side me and said he saw my "small plate". It is small but still..... should I really be fined £30?
The policeman parked along side me and said he saw my "small plate". It is small but still..... should I really be fined £30?
Well lets see, if your number plate does not meet the regulations regarding size, font and spacing then yes. Does it?
T5SOR said:
Earlier I was followed for half a mile by a marked car. I pulled into private property and got out.
The policeman parked along side me and said he saw my "small plate". It is small but still..... should I really be fined £30?
Anything I can do to avoid the fine? It's only £30 but its the point of the matter! On his radio at the same time he was called because 3 youths were racing around without helmets on their mopeds..... obviously my number plate is more important
He didn't have a ruler with him and I hardly think he has calibrated eyes! Also, can the Police fine you on private property? Not like the car was on public road at the time.
Mike
The policeman parked along side me and said he saw my "small plate". It is small but still..... should I really be fined £30?
Anything I can do to avoid the fine? It's only £30 but its the point of the matter! On his radio at the same time he was called because 3 youths were racing around without helmets on their mopeds..... obviously my number plate is more important
He didn't have a ruler with him and I hardly think he has calibrated eyes! Also, can the Police fine you on private property? Not like the car was on public road at the time.
Mike
Well the shoplifter no doubt could say the Police should be dealing with burglars instead, after all it's the more serious offence.
I'll personally prefer to take the view that you have brought it on yourself, if you hadn't been offending they could have concentrated on something else.
The offence was committed on the public road, where you are reported for it doesn't matter.
spunky-mon said:
just out of interest what is the smallest number plate you can have?
does this differ between motorbikes and cars and if so why?
does this differ between motorbikes and cars and if so why?
Read all about it.... www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2001/20010561.htm
Size and spacing of characters
14. - (1) Except in the cases mentioned in paragraphs (2) and (3), each character in a registration mark must be 79 millimetres high.
(2) In the case of a registration mark displayed on a vehicle first registered before 1st September 2001, a character in a registration mark may be 89 millimetres high unless -
(a) the vehicle was first registered on or after 1st January 1973 and the mark is displayed on a new registration plate fixed to the vehicle to replace a plate previously fixed thereto, or
(b) the vehicle is a motor cycle, motor tricycle, quadricycle, agricultural machine, works truck or road roller.
(3) In the case of a registration mark fixed on a motor cycle, motor tricycle, quadricycle, agricultural machine, works truck or road roller, each character of the mark may be 64 millimetres high.
Edited by shuvitupya on Friday 30th March 18:54
shuvitupya said:
spunky-mon said:
just out of interest what is the smallest number plate you can have?
does this differ between motorbikes and cars and if so why?
does this differ between motorbikes and cars and if so why?
Read all about it.... www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2001/20010561.htm
Size and spacing of characters
14. - (1) Except in the cases mentioned in paragraphs (2) and (3), each character in a registration mark must be 79 millimetres high.
(2) In the case of a registration mark displayed on a vehicle first registered before 1st September 2001, a character in a registration mark may be 89 millimetres high unless -
(a) the vehicle was first registered on or after 1st January 1973 and the mark is displayed on a new registration plate fixed to the vehicle to replace a plate previously fixed thereto, or
(b) the vehicle is a motor cycle, motor tricycle, quadricycle, agricultural machine, works truck or road roller.
(3) In the case of a registration mark fixed on a motor cycle, motor tricycle, quadricycle, agricultural machine, works truck or road roller, each character of the mark may be 64 millimetres high.
Edited by shuvitupya on Friday 30th March 18:54
lots about spacing and character size, what about the actual plate.
ie. if i had a plate with 1 RC for example could i cut this down so it didnt have large yellow / white bits showing either side?
if it is there and im just bein stupid, sorry.
T5SOR said:
Earlier I was followed for half a mile by a marked car. I pulled into private property and got out.
The policeman parked along side me and said he saw my "small plate". It is small but still..... should I really be fined £30?
Anything I can do to avoid the fine? It's only £30 but its the point of the matter! On his radio at the same time he was called because 3 youths were racing around without helmets on their mopeds..... obviously my number plate is more important
He didn't have a ruler with him and I hardly think he has calibrated eyes! Also, can the Police fine you on private property? Not like the car was on public road at the time.
Mike
The policeman parked along side me and said he saw my "small plate". It is small but still..... should I really be fined £30?
Anything I can do to avoid the fine? It's only £30 but its the point of the matter! On his radio at the same time he was called because 3 youths were racing around without helmets on their mopeds..... obviously my number plate is more important
He didn't have a ruler with him and I hardly think he has calibrated eyes! Also, can the Police fine you on private property? Not like the car was on public road at the time.
Mike
If he didn't measure it, he has no proof......
I was stopped for the same thing, the officer got his ruler out and measured my plate at 88mm wide.
No fine for me though
Scrooloose said:
T5SOR said:
Earlier I was followed for half a mile by a marked car. I pulled into private property and got out.
The policeman parked along side me and said he saw my "small plate". It is small but still..... should I really be fined £30?
Anything I can do to avoid the fine? It's only £30 but its the point of the matter! On his radio at the same time he was called because 3 youths were racing around without helmets on their mopeds..... obviously my number plate is more important
He didn't have a ruler with him and I hardly think he has calibrated eyes! Also, can the Police fine you on private property? Not like the car was on public road at the time.
Mike
The policeman parked along side me and said he saw my "small plate". It is small but still..... should I really be fined £30?
Anything I can do to avoid the fine? It's only £30 but its the point of the matter! On his radio at the same time he was called because 3 youths were racing around without helmets on their mopeds..... obviously my number plate is more important
He didn't have a ruler with him and I hardly think he has calibrated eyes! Also, can the Police fine you on private property? Not like the car was on public road at the time.
Mike
If he didn't measure it, he has no proof......
I was stopped for the same thing, the officer got his ruler out and measured my plate at 88mm wide.
No fine for me though
The minimum size of the plate is not defined in the legislation.
Here's one for you then. Hypothetically..
Your car gets stolen.
You report it to the police.
It is circulated on the PNC.
It is passed three times in a day by an ANPR car or passes through an ANPR camera site.
Because your number plate is too small, it doesn't get recognised.
The next day your car is found burnt out.
Of course, you can probably offset the cost of replacing your car against the odd speeding ticket you may have escaped with ;o)
Your car gets stolen.
You report it to the police.
It is circulated on the PNC.
It is passed three times in a day by an ANPR car or passes through an ANPR camera site.
Because your number plate is too small, it doesn't get recognised.
The next day your car is found burnt out.
Of course, you can probably offset the cost of replacing your car against the odd speeding ticket you may have escaped with ;o)
red head said:
Here's one for you then. Hypothetically..
Your car gets stolen.
You report it to the police.
It is circulated on the PNC.
It is passed three times in a day by an ANPR car or passes through an ANPR camera site.
Because your number plate is too small, it doesn't get recognised.
The next day your car is found burnt out.
Of course, you can probably offset the cost of replacing your car against the odd speeding ticket you may have escaped with ;o)
Your car gets stolen.
You report it to the police.
It is circulated on the PNC.
It is passed three times in a day by an ANPR car or passes through an ANPR camera site.
Because your number plate is too small, it doesn't get recognised.
The next day your car is found burnt out.
Of course, you can probably offset the cost of replacing your car against the odd speeding ticket you may have escaped with ;o)
Agreed.
The 'other side of the coin' is that your son/daughter/wife gets run over. There are a couple of witnesses who see the driver spped off without stopping. All they can remember is that the letters were in italic and bunched together, and they cannot make a match to find the driver and/or ANPR cannot pick it up.
This is actually one piece of 'pointless' legislation I can support - probably because I could never see the point of messing with the original plate. I know some cars make it diffcult, but I suppose the risk of £30 each time is the choice you make!
Scrooloose said:
T5SOR said:
Earlier I was followed for half a mile by a marked car. I pulled into private property and got out.
The policeman parked along side me and said he saw my "small plate". It is small but still..... should I really be fined £30?
Anything I can do to avoid the fine? It's only £30 but its the point of the matter! On his radio at the same time he was called because 3 youths were racing around without helmets on their mopeds..... obviously my number plate is more important
He didn't have a ruler with him and I hardly think he has calibrated eyes! Also, can the Police fine you on private property? Not like the car was on public road at the time.
Mike
The policeman parked along side me and said he saw my "small plate". It is small but still..... should I really be fined £30?
Anything I can do to avoid the fine? It's only £30 but its the point of the matter! On his radio at the same time he was called because 3 youths were racing around without helmets on their mopeds..... obviously my number plate is more important
He didn't have a ruler with him and I hardly think he has calibrated eyes! Also, can the Police fine you on private property? Not like the car was on public road at the time.
Mike
If he didn't measure it, he has no proof......
I was stopped for the same thing, the officer got his ruler out and measured my plate at 88mm wide.
No fine for me though
Mind you possibly depends how small it is! The poster may have admitted it was small! After all he doesn;t deny it was small, just asking why he got fined.
chrisgr31 said:
Scrooloose said:
T5SOR said:
Earlier I was followed for half a mile by a marked car. I pulled into private property and got out.
The policeman parked along side me and said he saw my "small plate". It is small but still..... should I really be fined £30?
Anything I can do to avoid the fine? It's only £30 but its the point of the matter! On his radio at the same time he was called because 3 youths were racing around without helmets on their mopeds..... obviously my number plate is more important
He didn't have a ruler with him and I hardly think he has calibrated eyes! Also, can the Police fine you on private property? Not like the car was on public road at the time.
Mike
The policeman parked along side me and said he saw my "small plate". It is small but still..... should I really be fined £30?
Anything I can do to avoid the fine? It's only £30 but its the point of the matter! On his radio at the same time he was called because 3 youths were racing around without helmets on their mopeds..... obviously my number plate is more important
He didn't have a ruler with him and I hardly think he has calibrated eyes! Also, can the Police fine you on private property? Not like the car was on public road at the time.
Mike
If he didn't measure it, he has no proof......
I was stopped for the same thing, the officer got his ruler out and measured my plate at 88mm wide.
No fine for me though
Mind you possibly depends how small it is! The poster may have admitted it was small! After all he doesn;t deny it was small, just asking why he got fined.
He got fined because he admitted the offence of the plate being small.
The OP should have just said it looks fine to me, or denied any wrong doing.
lookrightfirst said:
just tell Him to Feck off as you can only be fined in a Court of Law, (Wanker!)
who do these Twats think they are, Hitler?, just tell them to feck off!
who do these Twats think they are, Hitler?, just tell them to feck off!
He was given a FPN, that is a conditional offer.
If he admits the offence he can pay it, if he doesn't agree he can go to court and plead not guilty.
The choice is his.
Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 31st March 00:25
Forums | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff