just got Caught speeding by police car.11.30 pm.

[allnighter]

It's a 40mph limit, and I reckon I was doing 48 at the most.I was shocked to discover I was doing an average of 56.75mph which I reckon is innacurate.He clocked me out of sight over the hill then again when I was barely noticable a fair distance away before I turned left into my close.Now I don't fully understand how they click between two points but I am sure as hell I was not doing 56mph.
Can I ask for the video evidence from the police? as I am seriously thinking about asking for the court to deal with the matter.I have a clean licence at the mo so no risk of me being disqualified.
Alternatively I could just bite the bullet save the hassle and pay 60 quid with 3 PP.
I am so furious at the moment I am thinking of going to court over this.
Can someone explain how he can clock me from A to B, when point A I was out of sight over the hill and he was slowed down by a car in front of him.Do i have a leg to stand on? Any solicitors you know of who can fight this crap? Help!

[vixpy1]

I was not aware they could use the two points method in the dark, with the glare from headlights and the dark itself, i can't see it being accurate in any way

[moleamol]

They press a button when they see you pass a point and then press it when they pass that point. It's amazing technology and not at all dodgy given that it is down to someone pressing a button (they are highly trained button pressers apparently).

[Allblackdup]

What did the Officer say to you?

I also didn't realise they had any technology that worked in the dark. Maybe i was being too naive....

[imbecile]

Allblackdup said:

What did the Officer say to you?

I also didn't realise they had any technology that worked in the dark. Maybe i was being too naive....

All the technology works in the dark...

[allnighter]

Allblackdup said:

What did the Officer say to you?

I also didn't realise they had any technology that worked in the dark. Maybe i was being too naive....

Well he sat me at the back of his car offered me a cuppa and proceeded to turn me into toast by showing me the video at which point I contested his accuracy which made him huff and puff and even made a request for a "personal search" on a national computer to see whether or not I am a member of some terrorist organisation, after that he offered to relieve me of my driving licence to which I objected, so he gave me a nice green receipt and asked me to take it to the nearest police station with both parts of my DL.To top it all he stuck the air con on when i was wearing just a t-shirt, so i was freezing my nuts, and he thought i was nervous or "guilty".When it was all finished i tried to get out but the door bdid not respond , so he had to go out of the car to let me out like some common criminal in front of my own house.
Oh and he asked me whether my car was a manual or automatic, dunno the relevance of that.I am just glad I did not tell him I am a member of Pistonheads, speed matters and all that lark...



ps: The bit about the cuppa is not true ok.I am still fuming that's all.

Edited by allnighter on Thursday 19th April 01:13

[nicecupoftea]

How does pressing a button when you pass something and then him passing something tell him anything about your speed? He needs to know how much distance you covered in an amount of time and only having one point of ref he can't know distance covered...

[allnighter]

nicecupoftea said:

How does pressing a button when you pass something and then him passing something tell him anything about your speed? He needs to know how much distance you covered in an amount of time and only having one point of ref he can't know distance covered...

That's what I am trying to establish.According to him I travelled a distance of 365m and I averaged 56.75 mph.

[moleamol]

nicecupoftea said:

How does pressing a button when you pass something and then him passing something tell him anything about your speed? He needs to know how much distance you covered in an amount of time and only having one point of ref he can't know distance covered...

They do it for themselves as well.

[moleamol]

allnighter said:

nicecupoftea said:

How does pressing a button when you pass something and then him passing something tell him anything about your speed? He needs to know how much distance you covered in an amount of time and only having one point of ref he can't know distance covered...

That's what I am trying to establish.According to him I travelled a distance of 365m and I averaged 56.75 mph.

I was unclear, they measure the time taken over a given distance by pressing when you pass two points and when they pass the same two points, using their cars reading as a calibrated measurement.

[RobDickinson]

nicecupoftea said:

How does pressing a button when you pass something and then him passing something tell him anything about your speed? He needs to know how much distance you covered in an amount of time and only having one point of ref he can't know distance covered...

The button is pressed twice, for a known distance.

Time & distance = speed. Its a very accurate way of assesing speed too, just prehaps not in the dark.

[allnighter]

moleamol said:

allnighter said:

nicecupoftea said:

How does pressing a button when you pass something and then him passing something tell him anything about your speed? He needs to know how much distance you covered in an amount of time and only having one point of ref he can't know distance covered...

That's what I am trying to establish.According to him I travelled a distance of 365m and I averaged 56.75 mph.

I was unclear, they measure the time taken over a given distance by pressing when you pass two points and when they pass the same two points, using their cars reading as a calibrated measurement.

Does that mean the click 4 times?

[moleamol]

RobDickinson said:

nicecupoftea said:

How does pressing a button when you pass something and then him passing something tell him anything about your speed? He needs to know how much distance you covered in an amount of time and only having one point of ref he can't know distance covered...

The button is pressed twice, for a known distance.

Time & distance = speed. Its a very accurate way of assesing speed too, just prehaps not in the dark.

Well time and distance will give a very accurate measurement of speed, but what if one if them was inaccurate. What if the button was pressed a second too late? I'm not even sure that VASCAR is acceptable over such a short distance?

[moleamol]

allnighter said:

moleamol said:

allnighter said:

nicecupoftea said:

How does pressing a button when you pass something and then him passing something tell him anything about your speed? He needs to know how much distance you covered in an amount of time and only having one point of ref he can't know distance covered...

That's what I am trying to establish.According to him I travelled a distance of 365m and I averaged 56.75 mph.

I was unclear, they measure the time taken over a given distance by pressing when you pass two points and when they pass the same two points, using their cars reading as a calibrated measurement.

Does that mean the click 4 times?

Yeah, once when you pass the start, once when they pass the start, then once when you pass the finish, and once when they pass the finish. You see white squares in the road sometimes, these are used as reference points, failing that they can use a lampost etc. This is all from memory from when it happened to me but I am fairly sure I'm right about everything so far.

[allnighter]

Ok, so Am I within my right to request a copy of the video? I just want to scrutinise it.

[vonhosen]

You are thinking of pleading not guilty to speeding on the basis that you believe you were doing 48 in a 40 ?

56 in a 40 & 48 in a 40 would result in the same penalty anyway.

[Leftie]

moleamol said:

They press a button when they see you pass a point and then press it when they pass that point. It's amazing technology and not at all dodgy given that it is down to someone pressing a button (they are highly trained button pressers apparently).

Does that not also depend yupon them maintaining a constant speed between clicks?

[turbobloke]

Double take - thought I was in SP&L for a moment there.

[snotrag]

Agreed with that ^. I understand you may be annoyed about being caught, but you were still speeding.

How old are you? £60, yes a bit of a bummer, but I assure you taking it further is going to cost you more than that in time and hassle. 3 points, thats the main thing, but I don't think most insurers pay THAT much attention to 3 points these days as there given out willy nilly by scamera's.

If you go to court, most likely it will be loads of stress and hassle for you, you'll be found guilty anyway, and the fine will be increased just to wind you up.

[carrera2]

I was always under the impression that if you went out of sight between the two clicks then they don't have a leg to stand on.

Speak to a specialist solicitor.