Seatbelts.... But no seats.
Discussion
If one decided to remove the rear seats from his road car so as to improve its performance on track, or even just to improve fuel economy and such, but was caught off-guard away from home (where his seats are), would he be allowed to carry rear passengers bearing in mind that the seatbelts are still there, and that the rear passengers will be sitting basically where the seats are, but without the padding and comfort of the seats?
Or would it be illegal?
Cheers,
AL
Or would it be illegal?
Cheers,
AL
it's a (hypothetical) Rover, not a Corsa Now for a constructive answer.
If there are no rear seats you cannot carry passengers in the place where those seats should be. There is some regulation to that effect, although I'm afraid I can't actually quote it.
In my rally Rover 214Si I have had to fold the rear seats flat and the seat belt mountings have had to be removed to allow the roll cage to be fitted. There is always some contention as to whether the car complies with the C & U Regulations although since the seats can't be re-fitted it's never been a problem with MoT or The Old Bill.
If there are no rear seats you cannot carry passengers in the place where those seats should be. There is some regulation to that effect, although I'm afraid I can't actually quote it.
In my rally Rover 214Si I have had to fold the rear seats flat and the seat belt mountings have had to be removed to allow the roll cage to be fitted. There is always some contention as to whether the car complies with the C & U Regulations although since the seats can't be re-fitted it's never been a problem with MoT or The Old Bill.
Cooperman said:
Now for a constructive answer.
If there are no rear seats you cannot carry passengers in the place where those seats should be. There is some regulation to that effect, although I'm afraid I can't actually quote it.
In my rally Rover 214Si I have had to fold the rear seats flat and the seat belt mountings have had to be removed to allow the roll cage to be fitted. There is always some contention as to whether the car complies with the C & U Regulations although since the seats can't be re-fitted it's never been a problem with MoT or The Old Bill.
If there are no rear seats you cannot carry passengers in the place where those seats should be. There is some regulation to that effect, although I'm afraid I can't actually quote it.
In my rally Rover 214Si I have had to fold the rear seats flat and the seat belt mountings have had to be removed to allow the roll cage to be fitted. There is always some contention as to whether the car complies with the C & U Regulations although since the seats can't be re-fitted it's never been a problem with MoT or The Old Bill.
Regulation 100 Con and Use regs 1978.
Dangerous condition or unsuitable use covers all!!!
mg6b said:
Cooperman said:
Now for a constructive answer.
If there are no rear seats you cannot carry passengers in the place where those seats should be. There is some regulation to that effect, although I'm afraid I can't actually quote it.
In my rally Rover 214Si I have had to fold the rear seats flat and the seat belt mountings have had to be removed to allow the roll cage to be fitted. There is always some contention as to whether the car complies with the C & U Regulations although since the seats can't be re-fitted it's never been a problem with MoT or The Old Bill.
If there are no rear seats you cannot carry passengers in the place where those seats should be. There is some regulation to that effect, although I'm afraid I can't actually quote it.
In my rally Rover 214Si I have had to fold the rear seats flat and the seat belt mountings have had to be removed to allow the roll cage to be fitted. There is always some contention as to whether the car complies with the C & U Regulations although since the seats can't be re-fitted it's never been a problem with MoT or The Old Bill.
Regulation 100 Con and Use regs 1978.
Dangerous condition or unsuitable use covers all!!!
OK, so illegal is the answer...
Thanks for the info
Edited by AL666 on Tuesday 1st May 20:18
But note that if you remove a seat and belt the vehicle cannot fail an MOT on those items as they aren't there. (Best not to take the drivers seat out though).
Hence if a passenger seat has a dodgy seat belt or mounting, take it out for the test. Only items that have to be fitted by law must be present and correct, everything else is only part of the test if it's there.
Hence if a passenger seat has a dodgy seat belt or mounting, take it out for the test. Only items that have to be fitted by law must be present and correct, everything else is only part of the test if it's there.
jaybkay said:
But note that if you remove a seat and belt the vehicle cannot fail an MOT on those items as they aren't there. (Best not to take the drivers seat out though).
Hence if a passenger seat has a dodgy seat belt or mounting, take it out for the test. Only items that have to be fitted by law must be present and correct, everything else is only part of the test if it's there.
Hence if a passenger seat has a dodgy seat belt or mounting, take it out for the test. Only items that have to be fitted by law must be present and correct, everything else is only part of the test if it's there.
Even though it's registered as a 4-seater car?
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