Even if they have to involve the dealer, they'll find you...
Even if they have to involve the dealer, they'll find you...
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Frederick

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5,898 posts

251 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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Quite amazing really, the bloke rides past them (at a fair old lick) and gives the police the V's...

Police get so incensed at this they enlist BMW to find out how many people had those bikes in that area, unluckily for this bloke only 3 people had one, then by a process of elimination find him and nick him for speeding.

s2art

18,942 posts

284 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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Frederick said:
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Quite amazing really, the bloke rides past them (at a fair old lick) and gives the police the V's...

Police get so incensed at this they enlist BMW to find out how many people had those bikes in that area, unluckily for this bloke only 3 people had one, then by a process of elimination find him and nick him for speeding.


Just goes to show, there is safety in numbers. Buy a more common bike next time.

deva link

26,934 posts

276 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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Surely if he'd just flatly denied it, rather than pleading guilty, he couldn't have been convicted?

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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Judge Michael Kay QC said:

"You decided to take the system on and I am pleased to say you lost."


clap

s2art

18,942 posts

284 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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vonhosen said:
Judge Michael Kay QC said:

"You decided to take the system on and I am pleased to say you lost."


clap

Not sure why you applaud. Thats a blow for Cameras against Trafpol.

herewego

8,814 posts

244 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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vonhosen said:
Judge Michael Kay QC said:

"You decided to take the system on and I am pleased to say you lost."


clap

He didn't lose everything though. They had charged him with dangerous driving.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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herewego said:
vonhosen said:
Judge Michael Kay QC said:

"You decided to take the system on and I am pleased to say you lost."


clap

He didn't lose everything though. They had charged him with dangerous driving.


We know speed alone doesn't make it dangerous, there can't have been sufficient evidence that it was (or it wasn't in the public interest to proceed with it as he pleaded to the other offences).

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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s2art said:
vonhosen said:
Judge Michael Kay QC said:

"You decided to take the system on and I am pleased to say you lost."


clap

Not sure why you applaud. Thats a blow for Cameras against Trafpol.


Because someone who was extracting the urine got caught out, it doesn't matter to me who the prosecuting agent is with such people.

herewego

8,814 posts

244 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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vonhosen said:
herewego said:
vonhosen said:
Judge Michael Kay QC said:

"You decided to take the system on and I am pleased to say you lost."


clap

He didn't lose everything though. They had charged him with dangerous driving.


We know speed alone doesn't make it dangerous, there can't have been sufficient evidence that it was (or it wasn't in the public interest to proceed with it as he pleaded to the other offences).

They did proceed with it but the jury said no. Shame they don't say what he did other than speed and salute.

Richard C

1,685 posts

288 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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[quote=vonhosen
Because someone who was extracting the urine got caught out, [/quote]

And thats really what bothers you the most isn't it

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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Richard C said:
vonhosen said:

Because someone who was extracting the urine got caught out,


And thats really what bothers you the most isn't it



I don't save my feelings on the matter for just motoring offences (if that's what you are thinking), it's for people who do it in relation to any offences.
They've said he wasn't dangerous, but his persistent, flagrant offending needed addressing & I'm personally glad that they took the time to do it.

He sounds just the kind I like to see getting prosecuted.

So I say cheers beer



Edited by vonhosen on Thursday 17th May 20:45

TripleS

4,294 posts

273 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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s2art said:
vonhosen said:
Judge Michael Kay QC said:

"You decided to take the system on and I am pleased to say you lost."


clap

Not sure why you applaud. That's a blow for Cameras against Trafpol.


I don't think Von will be bothered about that, so long as nobody gets away with anything - even trifling speeding offences that are really of no consequence.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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TripleS said:
s2art said:
vonhosen said:
Judge Michael Kay QC said:

"You decided to take the system on and I am pleased to say you lost."


clap

Not sure why you applaud. That's a blow for Cameras against Trafpol.


I don't think Von will be bothered about that, so long as nobody gets away with anything - even trifling speeding offences that are really of no consequence.

Best wishes all,
Dave.


Now now Dave.
You know that I am not a supporter of people getting prosecuted for small transgressions.
Wilful, persistent, flagrant offenders however yes I have no problems with that.

7db

6,060 posts

261 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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vonhosen said:
Now now Dave.
You know that I am not a supporter of people getting prosecuted for small transgressions.
Wilful, persistent, flagrant offenders however yes I have no problems with that.


Am I the only one who thinks that wilful isn't necessary there?

djohnson

3,686 posts

254 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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vonhosen said:
I don't save my feelings on the matter for just motoring offences (if that's what you are thinking), it's for people who do it in relation to any offences.
They've said he wasn't dangerous, but his persistent, flagrant offending needed addressing & I'm personally glad that they took the time to do it.

He sounds just the kind I like to see getting prosecuted.

So I say cheers beer


Was it really worth the time and effort invested though?

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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djohnson said:
vonhosen said:
I don't save my feelings on the matter for just motoring offences (if that's what you are thinking), it's for people who do it in relation to any offences.
They've said he wasn't dangerous, but his persistent, flagrant offending needed addressing & I'm personally glad that they took the time to do it.

He sounds just the kind I like to see getting prosecuted.

So I say cheers beer


Was it really worth the time and effort invested though?



As far as speeding goes I'd rather they be concentrating their efforts on getting this sort of offender than lots of people committing minor transgressions.

The law has to be seen to be being upheld & such offenders have to believe that every reasonable effort will be made to identify them & bring them to justice.

NCC1701

3,851 posts

235 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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shout YES

imbecile

2,032 posts

255 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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vonhosen said:
The law has to be seen to be being upheld & such offenders have to believe that every reasonable effort will be made to identify them & bring them to justice.


Is this true though?

who me ?

7,455 posts

243 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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vonhosen said:




The law has to be seen to be being upheld & such offenders have to believe that every reasonable effort will be made to identify them & bring them to justice.


So that's why the untaxed, unlicenced, uninsured, with no MOT ,bald tyres, banned ,drunk and drugged driver ( to mention part of the millions of illegal road users) are now shaking in their shoes, or pledging to stay off the road till they become legal ?????

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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who me said:
vonhosen said:




The law has to be seen to be being upheld & such offenders have to believe that every reasonable effort will be made to identify them & bring them to justice.


So that's why the untaxed, unlicenced, uninsured, with no MOT ,bald tyres, banned ,drunk and drugged driver ( to mention part of the millions of illegal road users) are now shaking in their shoes, or pledging to stay off the road till they become legal ?????


They are prosecuted (not all of course) & we all know that people are prosecuted for it (cars seized as well for no insurance etc).

All speeders aren't prosecuted either though are they ?
You've just got to know that if you offend & are caught then you may be prosecuted.
You've also got to know that the more blatant your offending, then the authorities are more likely to expend greater effort in bringing you to justice.


Edited by vonhosen on Thursday 17th May 23:04