Police finding their voice
Discussion
There have been two articles in the press this week on the related "Orwellian" theme
"Senior officer's doubts over ID cards
SUFFOLK'S most senior policeman has questioned whether controversial ID cards would be the solution to major crime, saying they could become the “gold standard” for hackers.
The Government could make the cards compulsory from around 2010 in a bid to crack down on terrorism and organised crime, but Suffolk's Acting Chief Constable Colin Langham-Fitt has voiced his doubts over their use.
He called for a full debate over the creeping increase in surveillance and warned ID cards could change the relationship between the police and the community.
Mr Langham-Fitt, who stressed his comments were his personal views and not those of Suffolk police, said: “They could become the gold standard of ID crime. It could raise the standards and stakes for those who wish to clone them or subvert the system.”
“There should be a debate about the ongoing erosion of civil liberties in the name of the fight against terrorism and the fight against"
"Police chief's 'Orwellian' fears
A senior police officer has said he fears the spread of CCTV cameras is leading to "an Orwellian situation".
Deputy chief constable of Hampshire Ian Readhead said Britain could become a surveillance society with cameras on every street corner.He told the BBC's Politics Show that CCTV was being used in small towns and villages where crime rates were low.Mr Readhead also called for the retention of some DNA evidence and the use of speed cameras to be reviewed.
His force area includes the small town of Stockbridge, where parish councillors have spent £10,000 installing CCTV.
Mr Readhead questioned whether the relatively low crime levels justified the expense and intrusion.
'Every street corner?'
"I'm really concerned about what happens to the product of these cameras, and what comes next?" he said.
"If it's in our villages, are we really moving towards an Orwellian situation where cameras are at every street corner? "And I really don't think that's the kind of country that I want to live in."
There are up to 4.2 million CCTV cameras in Britain - about one for every 14 people.
The UK also has the world's biggest DNA database, with 3.6 million DNA samples on file. "
"Senior officer's doubts over ID cards
SUFFOLK'S most senior policeman has questioned whether controversial ID cards would be the solution to major crime, saying they could become the “gold standard” for hackers.
The Government could make the cards compulsory from around 2010 in a bid to crack down on terrorism and organised crime, but Suffolk's Acting Chief Constable Colin Langham-Fitt has voiced his doubts over their use.
He called for a full debate over the creeping increase in surveillance and warned ID cards could change the relationship between the police and the community.
Mr Langham-Fitt, who stressed his comments were his personal views and not those of Suffolk police, said: “They could become the gold standard of ID crime. It could raise the standards and stakes for those who wish to clone them or subvert the system.”
“There should be a debate about the ongoing erosion of civil liberties in the name of the fight against terrorism and the fight against"
"Police chief's 'Orwellian' fears
A senior police officer has said he fears the spread of CCTV cameras is leading to "an Orwellian situation".
Deputy chief constable of Hampshire Ian Readhead said Britain could become a surveillance society with cameras on every street corner.He told the BBC's Politics Show that CCTV was being used in small towns and villages where crime rates were low.Mr Readhead also called for the retention of some DNA evidence and the use of speed cameras to be reviewed.
His force area includes the small town of Stockbridge, where parish councillors have spent £10,000 installing CCTV.
Mr Readhead questioned whether the relatively low crime levels justified the expense and intrusion.
'Every street corner?'
"I'm really concerned about what happens to the product of these cameras, and what comes next?" he said.
"If it's in our villages, are we really moving towards an Orwellian situation where cameras are at every street corner? "And I really don't think that's the kind of country that I want to live in."
There are up to 4.2 million CCTV cameras in Britain - about one for every 14 people.
The UK also has the world's biggest DNA database, with 3.6 million DNA samples on file. "
bluepolarbear said:
chrispy porker said:
Are ACPO elections nigh by any chance? 
ACPO is just another political branch of the government so I doubt that they will get many votes speaking out againist the party line.
Raised profile is what it's about.
Ever heard of either of these gentlemen before?
ACPO like to elect the occasional loose cannon ( metaphor? alert), as it takes the pressure off the rest of them.
chrispy porker said:
bluepolarbear said:
chrispy porker said:
Are ACPO elections nigh by any chance?
ACPO is just another political branch of the government so I doubt that they will get many votes speaking out againist the party line.
Raised profile is what it's about.
Ever heard of either of these gentlemen before?
ACPO like to elect the occasional loose cannon ( metaphor? alert), as it takes the pressure off the rest of them.
I annoint you with my recently acquired title by the management of 'Sergeant Cynical'
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