Why do you break the speed limit?
Discussion
Howitzer said:
To get somewhere faster and at other times to enjoy the car I worked very hard for.
Dave!
Yep, partly the above. I don't go out to break speed limits per se. I try and drive at an appropriate and safe speed for the conditions, vehicle etc. This is often above the statutory speed limit, invariably on motorays and clear A & B roads. I never exceed the speed limit in built up areas and often drive well below it near schools and busy pedestrian areas. Dave!
In short I break speed limits becasue I judge them to be inappropriate.
pp
Three reasons, in no particular order:
1. To get somewhere quicker - only really applies on journeys above 20/30 miles
2. Because I prefer to make progress. Similarly I tend to walk much faster than most people as I don't like dilly dallying. This could be characterised as impatient, but to do so would be dishonest.
3. I might be out for a lesiure drive, although I don't do this very much.
I can't think of any occassions in the last year that I have accidentally breached the speed limit.
1. To get somewhere quicker - only really applies on journeys above 20/30 miles
2. Because I prefer to make progress. Similarly I tend to walk much faster than most people as I don't like dilly dallying. This could be characterised as impatient, but to do so would be dishonest.
3. I might be out for a lesiure drive, although I don't do this very much.
I can't think of any occassions in the last year that I have accidentally breached the speed limit.
I never break speed limits in urban areas, and rarely on motorways (obsessed with MPG)! However, on a nice twisty road i enjoy the feeling of acceleration and lateral Gs whilst cornering. I dont pay a huge amount of attention to my speed in NSL roads like this, just ensure i can always stop in the distance i can see. I believe this to be a safe approach. However, i find my attention is increasingly spent scrutanising bushes and overpasses on the horizon looking for little men with lazer guns aiming to deprive me of my licence.
Some great answers there.
Can I ask those who say they get a better MPG whether they would slow down to below the limit if it turned out they didn't?
Similarly - those who say it's to get there quicker - what sort of difference do they think it makes on the typical journey? How much would it need to be to be worth getting caught?
Does anyone speed accidentally, or do we do all do it deliberately? Do the people who look at hazards rather than their speedo really not know when they are speeding?
Can I ask those who say they get a better MPG whether they would slow down to below the limit if it turned out they didn't?
Similarly - those who say it's to get there quicker - what sort of difference do they think it makes on the typical journey? How much would it need to be to be worth getting caught?
Does anyone speed accidentally, or do we do all do it deliberately? Do the people who look at hazards rather than their speedo really not know when they are speeding?
The 'real' reason that drivers speed is because their subconscious risk management processes assesses the environment and complains if the speed is wrong.
Too slow and you get 'hurry up, this is boring' messages, too fast and you get 'slow down this is scary' messages.
For experienced and responsible drivers these assessments are far more accurate and far more important than the number on the tin sign.
Too slow and you get 'hurry up, this is boring' messages, too fast and you get 'slow down this is scary' messages.
For experienced and responsible drivers these assessments are far more accurate and far more important than the number on the tin sign.
Howitzer said:
To get somewhere faster and at other times to enjoy the car I worked very hard for.
Agree with the above.Other reason for me to speed (at work) is that we're support to be at the patient within an 8 minute time limit.
7db said:
Does anyone speed accidentally, or do we do all do it deliberately?
I think both.I'm im driving fast on the motorway early in the morning with no traffic than it's obvisouly deliberate, but when i'm watching the busy traffic and driving along with them in lets say a 40 zone you might be driving 42-43 at some moments without even noticing it straight away.
7db said:
Does anyone speed accidentally, or do we do all do it deliberately? Do the people who look at hazards rather than their speedo really not know when they are speeding?
I think its quite possible to speed accidentally if you are hovering around the limit, but I very rarely do. When I am speeding, its usually because I consider the limit to be inappropriately low, or if I may be enjoying the road if there is no one else around.
When I switch off and drive in auto-pilot, I normally stay under the limit so that I'm not in danger of being snapped. These are the times that I consider my driving to be at its worst, and on occasion, potentially dangerous.
safespeed said:
The 'real' reason that drivers speed is because their subconscious risk management processes assesses the environment and complains if the speed is wrong.
Too slow and you get 'hurry up, this is boring' messages, too fast and you get 'slow down this is scary' messages.
For experienced and responsible drivers these assessments are far more accurate and far more important than the number on the tin sign.
^this^Too slow and you get 'hurry up, this is boring' messages, too fast and you get 'slow down this is scary' messages.
For experienced and responsible drivers these assessments are far more accurate and far more important than the number on the tin sign.
that's probably why i go fast on motorways, less fast on windy country roads and slower still in urban areas
Medic-one said:
Does anyone speed accidentally, or do we do all do it deliberately?
I think both.
I'm im driving fast on the motorway early in the morning with no traffic than it's obvisouly deliberate, but when i'm watching the busy traffic and driving along with them in lets say a 40 zone you might be driving 42-43 at some moments without even noticing it straight away.
If I take speeding as over the limit + 2 + 10% then is it accidental?I think both.
I'm im driving fast on the motorway early in the morning with no traffic than it's obvisouly deliberate, but when i'm watching the busy traffic and driving along with them in lets say a 40 zone you might be driving 42-43 at some moments without even noticing it straight away.
(quotes fixed)
Edited by 7db on Sunday 10th June 23:14
hugoagogo said:
safespeed said:
The 'real' reason that drivers speed is because their subconscious risk management processes assesses the environment and complains if the speed is wrong.
Too slow and you get 'hurry up, this is boring' messages, too fast and you get 'slow down this is scary' messages.
For experienced and responsible drivers these assessments are far more accurate and far more important than the number on the tin sign.
^this^Too slow and you get 'hurry up, this is boring' messages, too fast and you get 'slow down this is scary' messages.
For experienced and responsible drivers these assessments are far more accurate and far more important than the number on the tin sign.
that's probably why i go fast on motorways, less fast on windy country roads and slower still in urban areas
I guess at the end of the day I normally drive at the highest speed I feel safe & comfortable at, giving due regard to my perceived chance of being caught speeding. I've been driving now for 25 years & with the exception of a shunt I had within 2 months of passing my test, have always had a clean license with no accidents.
safespeed said:
The 'real' reason that drivers speed is because their subconscious risk management processes assesses the environment and complains if the speed is wrong.
Too slow and you get 'hurry up, this is boring' messages, too fast and you get 'slow down this is scary' messages.
For experienced and responsible drivers these assessments are far more accurate and far more important than the number on the tin sign.
What happens when they get the "boring" message when they are going fast enough, or get scared when they aren't going fast enough? How experienced and responsible is experienced and responsible enough to set one's own limit?Too slow and you get 'hurry up, this is boring' messages, too fast and you get 'slow down this is scary' messages.
For experienced and responsible drivers these assessments are far more accurate and far more important than the number on the tin sign.
But you generalise. Why do you speed, Paul?
7db said:
safespeed said:
The 'real' reason that drivers speed is because their subconscious risk management processes assesses the environment and complains if the speed is wrong.
Too slow and you get 'hurry up, this is boring' messages, too fast and you get 'slow down this is scary' messages.
For experienced and responsible drivers these assessments are far more accurate and far more important than the number on the tin sign.
What happens when they get the "boring" message when they are going fast enough, or get scared when they aren't going fast enough? How experienced and responsible is experienced and responsible enough to set one's own limit?Too slow and you get 'hurry up, this is boring' messages, too fast and you get 'slow down this is scary' messages.
For experienced and responsible drivers these assessments are far more accurate and far more important than the number on the tin sign.
Any decent policy will develop and enhance drivers' risk management skills. Present policy tells us to ignore them. How barking is that?
7db said:
But you generalise. Why do you speed, Paul?
Who said I speed?I think more of us tend to exceed the speed limits on motorways.
I can't see any time advantage in exceedint the speed limit in 30 ~ 40 mph areas.
But if your on the motorway and the road is clear, sure, 70 mph is just pathetic with todays cars, and as such you will find many, many, drivers closer to 80 mph and still perfectly safe and in full control.
There are the other group, that on occasions just simply get bored on the motorways, and that is when you see the guy's flying past at 95 , but not quite the 100.
For them, it still feels safe and that they are in control, and 99% of the time they are.
Until some thing unexpected happens, and the can not react quick enough.
The next group of drivers, pilots, are playing silly buggers,
They are up on the other side of 150mph.
And not just above 150, we are way, way above 150mph.
thats done in defiance and to thrill seek.
I can't see any time advantage in exceedint the speed limit in 30 ~ 40 mph areas.
But if your on the motorway and the road is clear, sure, 70 mph is just pathetic with todays cars, and as such you will find many, many, drivers closer to 80 mph and still perfectly safe and in full control.
There are the other group, that on occasions just simply get bored on the motorways, and that is when you see the guy's flying past at 95 , but not quite the 100.
For them, it still feels safe and that they are in control, and 99% of the time they are.
Until some thing unexpected happens, and the can not react quick enough.
The next group of drivers, pilots, are playing silly buggers,
They are up on the other side of 150mph.
And not just above 150, we are way, way above 150mph.
thats done in defiance and to thrill seek.
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