Can I drive this van on my licence?
Can I drive this van on my licence?
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pmanson

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13,388 posts

284 months

Thursday 14th June 2007
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Hi All,

Need to borrow a van for a couple of days so that I can move house. A family friend has offered me the use of a Fiat Ducato (with a high roof):



Now this would be ideal (and fully insured etc) but I just want to check and make sure I can drive it on my licence. I passed in 2000 and my licence states the following categories B, B1, f k p.

Thanks,
Phill

eltax91

10,781 posts

237 months

Thursday 14th June 2007
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Phil,

If it's under 3500 KGS MAM (maximum authorised mass) then you are ok. This looks like the size of van that is around that figure, but i would suggest you do your research on that bit

pmanson

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Thursday 14th June 2007
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eltax91 said:
Phil,

If it's under 3500 KGS MAM (maximum authorised mass) then you are ok. This looks like the size of van that is around that figure, but i would suggest you do your research on that bit
OK a quick google finds this:
said:
The Fiat Ducato has bounded upmarket size-wise in its latest form. The largest derivative of the old model that operators could lay their hands on was a 3.5-tonner with a 12m3 load volume.
So i'm assuming it's 3.5 tonnes unladen which would put me on the limit? So does this mean I could drive the van empty but not loaded? Or is the weight measured with the van empty not his max carrying capacity.

Phill

blueyes

4,799 posts

283 months

Thursday 14th June 2007
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The ducato lwb high top is 3.5 tons.
The 3.5 tons is the GROSS vehicle weight: vehicle and load so you can drive it on a normal car licence.

If it was the EXTRA long high-top it would be 4-4.5 tons (they've only just come out so I doubt it is) and you'd need a C1 licence.

pmanson

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Thursday 14th June 2007
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blueyes said:
The ducato lwb high top is 3.5 tons.
The 3.5 tons is the GROSS vehicle weight: vehicle and load so you can drive it on a normal car licence.

If it was the EXTRA long high-top it would be 4-4.5 tons (they've only just come out so I doubt it is) and you'd need a C1 licence.
Ah Cheers!

It's an old one (similar to the one in the picture).

Don't want to get stopped and find i'm in the wrong so I thought i'd check... ignorance is no excuse as they say!


GPSHead

657 posts

272 months

Thursday 14th June 2007
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Trying to park a LWB van when you've driven nothing bigger than a Mondeo is bags of fun. smile

pmanson

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Thursday 14th June 2007
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GPSHead said:
Trying to park a LWB van when you've driven nothing bigger than a Mondeo is bags of fun. smile
I've driven this van before (but this time I had read something about licence restrictions so I just wanted to check I was ok) and i also used to drive the old folk's people carrier all the time!

Great fun driving the van - very odd feeling as I normally drive a Golf!

Flat in Fifth

48,934 posts

282 months

Thursday 14th June 2007
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Another thing to remember is that different speed limits apply.

esselte

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298 months

Thursday 14th June 2007
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Flat in Fifth said:
Another thing to remember is that different speed limits apply.
Yeah,with a white van you're limited to warp factor 1....smile

AndyAudi

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253 months

Thursday 14th June 2007
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esselte said:
Flat in Fifth said:
Another thing to remember is that different speed limits apply.
Yeah,with a white van you're limited to warp factor 1....smile
Brother has a couple of Merc Sprinters which do exactly that, when helping my sister to move house we had a run through the night on empty dual carriageways & Motorway. These things are quite capable of reaching & sitting 100 plus.
Big things to remember
depended how they are loaded their handling changes dramatically
always slow to about 85ish if empty and overtaking high sided vehicles (as I discovered trying to catch little brother)
they can also take forever & a day to stop and only a blink of an eye to flip.

Andy