Six points BEFORE passing your test?

[The Griffalo]

What's the situation if you get six points before passing your test? Is that a ban these days?

Friend of the gf's son let his mate drive his car while he was over the limit and he's just got six points for aiding and abetting (I'm assuming) by allowing his car to be driven.

Will he be able to drive when he passes his test.... Will he even be able to take lessons?

Just not sure if the six points in the first two years thing applies if you're on a provisional.

[Einion Yrth]

IIRC he can drive, but any subsequent infingement will result in licence revocation, return to provisional status, and restests.

[JustinP1]

The six point rule only applied from when you pass your test.

Of course, should he get 6 points after passing, then he will have 12, so be done for totting up anyway.

If he keeps his nose clean after passing then he should be OK though.

[barredup]

Can you get done if the driver of your car is over the drink drive limit? Do you have to be in the car? Were there any special circumstances i.e. was the driver a trillion times over the limit?

[esselte]

barredup said:

Can you get done if the driver of your car is over the drink drive limit? Do you have to be in the car? Were there any special circumstances i.e. was the driver a trillion times over the limit?

AIUI...If it's your car and you know/suspect that the guy you're letting drive it is over the limit then yes,it's aiding and abetting,just like if you let him drive it and you knew he wasn't insured....

Edited by esselte on Wednesday 20th June 13:06

[barredup]

Thanks for that - is it a mandatory 6 points then?

Only wondering out of interest - was genuinely unaware of this law.

[RaksP]

why did he tell the police he knew his mate was over the limit??? bit stupid really.

[esselte]

RaksP said:

why did he tell the police he knew his mate was over the limit??? bit stupid really.

Mind you,to play Devil's Advocate for a minute,unless he had an intoximeter how could he know for definite that his friend was over the limit?Unless he was falling over drunk obviously...

[The Griffalo]

esselte said:

RaksP said:

why did he tell the police he knew his mate was over the limit??? bit stupid really.

Mind you,to play Devil's Advocate for a minute,unless he had an intoximeter how could he know for definite that his friend was over the limit?Unless he was falling over drunk obviously...

He's seventeen and a fairly honest type... It was his car the other driver was driving. breathalyse the driver and then ask who's car it is... Done bang to rights.

[esselte]

The Griffalo said:

esselte said:

RaksP said:

why did he tell the police he knew his mate was over the limit??? bit stupid really.

Mind you,to play Devil's Advocate for a minute,unless he had an intoximeter how could he know for definite that his friend was over the limit?Unless he was falling over drunk obviously...

He's seventeen and a fairly honest type... It was his car the other driver was driving. breathalyse the driver and then ask who's car it is... Done bang to rights.

Bit of a bummer for him really...a hard lesson....

[Dwight VanDriver]

The friend of g/f son appears to be the owner of the car.

He lets a provisional Licence holder drive the car.

If he was acting as 'supervisor' when driver lathered then he enters the realm of aid and abet and as such can attract the same sentence as driver.

Just wonder though if the points were awarded for driver not complying with terms of Driving Licence?

Methinks there could be much more to this story.

dvd

[esselte]

Dwight VanDriver said:

The friend of g/f son appears to be the owner of the car.

He lets a provisional Licence holder drive the car.

If he was acting as 'supervisor' when driver lathered then he enters the realm of aid and abet and as such can attract the same sentence as driver.

Just wonder though if the points were awarded for driver not complying with terms of Driving Licence?

Methinks there could be much more to this story.

dvd

Did it say in the OP that the driver was on a provisional....
edited to say oops that sounded a bit harsh..sorry DvD

Edited by esselte on Wednesday 20th June 15:43

[The Griffalo]

Dwight VanDriver said:

The friend of g/f son appears to be the owner of the car.

He lets a provisional Licence holder drive the car.

If he was acting as 'supervisor' when driver lathered then he enters the realm of aid and abet and as such can attract the same sentence as driver.

Just wonder though if the points were awarded for driver not complying with terms of Driving Licence?

Methinks there could be much more to this story.

dvd

Nope, both on provisionals

Young lads being stupid and get caught bang to rights first time... Not only did he get points and fined, his parents also made him sell his car! I think he's learned an expensive lesson.