Parking for commercial vehicles
Discussion
A quick question for the legal types here. I seem to be suffering some rather selfish gits at the moment with parking outside my house.
There is no residents parking and no yellow lines, but I seem to have three high-side commercial vehicles parked outside on a very regular basis. Not only is it unsightly but its also blocking serious amounts of light. When I say high-sided vehicles, think long wheelbase VW LT vans - you know, the really big ones!
What is particularly annoying is that none of these people actually lives within 100 metres of my house, but seem to think that it is fair game - obviously looks better outside my house rather than theirs!!! Selfish gits!
Question is about parking restrictions. I know there is a restriction on commercial vehicles over 3.5 tonnes, but what about sodding great vans? I don't want to annoy the neighbours, but why should I suffer for their job - because they certainly NEVER park their vans outside their house!
Any suggestions?
There is no residents parking and no yellow lines, but I seem to have three high-side commercial vehicles parked outside on a very regular basis. Not only is it unsightly but its also blocking serious amounts of light. When I say high-sided vehicles, think long wheelbase VW LT vans - you know, the really big ones!
What is particularly annoying is that none of these people actually lives within 100 metres of my house, but seem to think that it is fair game - obviously looks better outside my house rather than theirs!!! Selfish gits!
Question is about parking restrictions. I know there is a restriction on commercial vehicles over 3.5 tonnes, but what about sodding great vans? I don't want to annoy the neighbours, but why should I suffer for their job - because they certainly NEVER park their vans outside their house!
Any suggestions?
off.2something said:
Unfortunately this seems to be a quite popular, there was a thread a couple of months ago with some really good suggestions - like checking if that size vehicle was allowed to park on residential streets etc.
I am not actually sure and I dont know where to start. There is nothing in the Highway code and my local council does not have any direct restrictions at the moment. Any ideas where to start?As for who's they are - I know already. One chap is reasonable and fair and more than willing to help. Its the other who owns TWO of them. Yep, thats right, TWO LWB high-siders! Refuses to park them outside his house, but prefers to block all of the light from mine..... selfish git.
As above speak first with owners. Be aware the drivers may be doing a naughty by parking up and claiming overnight allowance but staying at home.
If still no joy then from Operators Licence displayed find out the Traffic Commissioners who issued the Licence and speak to them (with Licence No and VRM). They may be be in breach of conditions of issue of Licence as to Operating Centre.
Word with Plod?
dvd
If still no joy then from Operators Licence displayed find out the Traffic Commissioners who issued the Licence and speak to them (with Licence No and VRM). They may be be in breach of conditions of issue of Licence as to Operating Centre.
Word with Plod?
dvd
Excellent - thanks for the info.
I am not looking to be nasty or anything. Its just plain inconsiderate. I know there are no restrictions and its a free for all on parking. Though there is almost always space. Quite why they insist on parking outside my house is something I am not sure of. Maybe I smell and its their way to get back at me.
Either way, they are parking outside my garage (which is the only one on the street which is at the street, complete with dropped kerb etc). So they know damn well that they shouldnt park there anyway. Quite why I should be inconvenienced because of their selfishness is beyond me.
A gentle word me thinks tomorrow - I am working from home tomorrow and both of them leave early but get back at around 4, so I will keep a look out. One of the drivers is a Business Post delivery driver (franchise) but the other one I am not sure about. Plain white van with no markings....
I am not looking to be nasty or anything. Its just plain inconsiderate. I know there are no restrictions and its a free for all on parking. Though there is almost always space. Quite why they insist on parking outside my house is something I am not sure of. Maybe I smell and its their way to get back at me.
Either way, they are parking outside my garage (which is the only one on the street which is at the street, complete with dropped kerb etc). So they know damn well that they shouldnt park there anyway. Quite why I should be inconvenienced because of their selfishness is beyond me.
A gentle word me thinks tomorrow - I am working from home tomorrow and both of them leave early but get back at around 4, so I will keep a look out. One of the drivers is a Business Post delivery driver (franchise) but the other one I am not sure about. Plain white van with no markings....
Dwight VanDriver said:
As above speak first with owners. Be aware the drivers may be doing a naughty by parking up and claiming overnight allowance but staying at home.
If still no joy then from Operators Licence displayed find out the Traffic Commissioners who issued the Licence and speak to them (with Licence No and VRM). They may be be in breach of conditions of issue of Licence as to Operating Centre.
Word with Plod?
dvd
Unusually for you DVD, you`re barking up the wrong tree here. They`re 3.5 tonners. No O Licence !If still no joy then from Operators Licence displayed find out the Traffic Commissioners who issued the Licence and speak to them (with Licence No and VRM). They may be be in breach of conditions of issue of Licence as to Operating Centre.
Word with Plod?
dvd
haggle said:
simple rent 3 vans and park them outside his house
Or more subtely ...Rent a van, park it outside of your house for a while and see where he parks.
Then don't park the the van outside of your house for a while and see where he parks.
If he moves his vans back to in front of your house, then park outside of his house.
And if he complains then ...
1. you have proven he doesn't need to park outside your house
2. you have proven it's not nice to have vans parked outside your house
To be fair towie lwb high roof VW Crafters go up to 5000kgs, and if it is an LT they used to go up to 4600kg iirc.
Even the 3000 kg pane van crafters have an unladen weight above the 1525kg lower limit, so I suspect if we had the full facts that DVD's comments would be fairly on the mark actually.
FiF
see here
which contains the following plus a list of exemptions
Most goods vehicles with a gross plated weight of over 3.5 tonnes or, if there is no plated weight, an unladen weight of over 1525 kg require a goods vehicle operator’s licence, if they are used to carry goods or burden of any description in connection with a trade or business, or for hire or reward. The requirement also applies to vehicles used for infrequent periods - such as one day.
Even the 3000 kg pane van crafters have an unladen weight above the 1525kg lower limit, so I suspect if we had the full facts that DVD's comments would be fairly on the mark actually.
FiF
see here
which contains the following plus a list of exemptions
Most goods vehicles with a gross plated weight of over 3.5 tonnes or, if there is no plated weight, an unladen weight of over 1525 kg require a goods vehicle operator’s licence, if they are used to carry goods or burden of any description in connection with a trade or business, or for hire or reward. The requirement also applies to vehicles used for infrequent periods - such as one day.
I started a similar topic a few months back - due to a similar incident outside my house.
As far as the highway code is concerned - there is little you can do about it. There are rules for vehicles that have an unladen weight in excess of about 1525kg. If a vehicle in excess of this weight limit is parked on a public highway at night - it must display parking lights (or other marker lights) otherwise it is parked illegally. Unfortunately - there are no rules covering the daytime parking of such vehicles.
from highway code:
224: Cars, goods vehicles not exceeding 1525kg unladen, invalid carriages and motorcycles may be parked without lights on a road (or lay-by) with a speed limit of 30 mph or less if they are
If the vehicle belongs to a company (rather than the individual). It may be worth giving the company a ring and voicing your concerns to them.
It may also be worth checking the terms of your freehold agreement - these sometimes contain caveats pertaining to commercial vehicles and caravans - although I think these only cover vehicles on your driveway.
As far as the highway code is concerned - there is little you can do about it. There are rules for vehicles that have an unladen weight in excess of about 1525kg. If a vehicle in excess of this weight limit is parked on a public highway at night - it must display parking lights (or other marker lights) otherwise it is parked illegally. Unfortunately - there are no rules covering the daytime parking of such vehicles.
from highway code:
224: Cars, goods vehicles not exceeding 1525kg unladen, invalid carriages and motorcycles may be parked without lights on a road (or lay-by) with a speed limit of 30 mph or less if they are
- at least 10 metres (32 feet) away from any junction, close to the kerb and facing in the direction of the traffic flow
- Other vehicles and trailers, and all vehicles with projecting loads, MUST NOT be left on a road at night without lights.
If the vehicle belongs to a company (rather than the individual). It may be worth giving the company a ring and voicing your concerns to them.
It may also be worth checking the terms of your freehold agreement - these sometimes contain caveats pertaining to commercial vehicles and caravans - although I think these only cover vehicles on your driveway.
I have this problem too, and the council tell me there is nothing I can do (ie: there is nothing they will do).
In my case its two lorries and one large van. All three owners have driveways, but would rather park outside my flat. Unfortunately, my window is only 2 foot away so it blocks all natural light in to the second bedroom where I work, and totally obscures the view from the Living Room
I certainly expect a reduction in council tax after the re-valuation, as I believe both view and natural light are taken in to account!
I think this is unfortunately as sign of the times. In the great IT/Telecoms boom, when you brought your work home with you, it consisted of a laptop. Now it is all builders and plumbers and the like, so we get white vans everywhere
In my case its two lorries and one large van. All three owners have driveways, but would rather park outside my flat. Unfortunately, my window is only 2 foot away so it blocks all natural light in to the second bedroom where I work, and totally obscures the view from the Living Room
I certainly expect a reduction in council tax after the re-valuation, as I believe both view and natural light are taken in to account!
I think this is unfortunately as sign of the times. In the great IT/Telecoms boom, when you brought your work home with you, it consisted of a laptop. Now it is all builders and plumbers and the like, so we get white vans everywhere
Edited by page3 on Friday 22 June 15:38
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