Carrying compressed gas.
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The short version is in a private car no you don't. This all comes under The carriage of dangerous goods and portable pressure equipment regulations 2004, which in turn is the UK version of the european harmonised version of the United Nations agreement on the transport of dangerous goods. Trust me if you think that is bad wait until to see the regulations, nightmare. But you don't need the labels on cars and vans, you need them on the packaging. The problem is this stuff is so confusing people just bung them on just in case. If you want more advice find yourself a DGSA (dangerous goods safety adviser) or if you want to have a really bad time, try sitting the DGSA exam!!
Joking apart if you want any more info let me know.
Joking apart if you want any more info let me know.
R39S1 said:
The short version is in a private car no you don't. This all comes under The carriage of dangerous goods and portable pressure equipment regulations 2004, which in turn is the UK version of the european harmonised version of the United Nations agreement on the transport of dangerous goods. Trust me if you think that is bad wait until to see the regulations, nightmare. But you don't need the labels on cars and vans, you need them on the packaging. The problem is this stuff is so confusing people just bung them on just in case. If you want more advice find yourself a DGSA (dangerous goods safety adviser) or if you want to have a really bad time, try sitting the DGSA exam!!
Joking apart if you want any more info let me know.
ARRRRRGH!!!!.Joking apart if you want any more info let me know.
sorry, just had a flashback to doing my ADR course a couple of years ago.
medicineman said:
What are the rules for carrying compressed gas? Do you need to legally display a green compressed gas sign? Does it depend on the type of gas, in this case oxygen? Thanks.
Depends on where you are carrying it - vehicle under 3.5 gross weight ADR doesn't apply but rules for health and safety do - which oddly would be similar to ADR requirements in reality. ADR / Carraige of Dangerous Goods Act is what requires signs, etc & driver training / ADR certificate for stuff like this .... only based on vehicles over 3.5T though. Many vehicles under 3.5T have stickers on permanently which is wrong as they are not required and can confuse emergency services if you are involved in a crash and don't actually have anything in the vehicle at that time anyway !
Regs are generally a nightmare though with loads of exemptions and rules. Your question is a bit too 'open' for any greater advice and costly though it is asking a professional is the best way as opposed to PH for something like this
Hi
I carry 2 times 14lb bottles of Nitrous Oxide in my car , full and mounted..
Legally I do NOT have to have ANY stickers...but just in case there is an accident and to protect emergency workers...I have 2 yellow NOS diamonds on either side rear of the car...
Nitrous is neither flammable or explosive....but it IS a pressurised gas (around 950 psi normally)
All the best Brett
I carry 2 times 14lb bottles of Nitrous Oxide in my car , full and mounted..
Legally I do NOT have to have ANY stickers...but just in case there is an accident and to protect emergency workers...I have 2 yellow NOS diamonds on either side rear of the car...
Nitrous is neither flammable or explosive....but it IS a pressurised gas (around 950 psi normally)
All the best Brett
Brett928S2 said:
Hi
I carry 2 times 14lb bottles of Nitrous Oxide in my car , full and mounted..
Legally I do NOT have to have ANY stickers...but just in case there is an accident and to protect emergency workers...I have 2 yellow NOS diamonds on either side rear of the car...
Nitrous is neither flammable or explosive....but it IS a pressurised gas (around 950 psi normally)
All the best Brett
As far as i remember, you are also exempt from ADR regs if the dangerous cargo is actually present in/connected to the fuel system*. This is why you dont need a sticker on any diesel/petrol/LPG fuelled car.I carry 2 times 14lb bottles of Nitrous Oxide in my car , full and mounted..
Legally I do NOT have to have ANY stickers...but just in case there is an accident and to protect emergency workers...I have 2 yellow NOS diamonds on either side rear of the car...
Nitrous is neither flammable or explosive....but it IS a pressurised gas (around 950 psi normally)
All the best Brett
- I'm well aware that nitrous is an oxidiser rather than fuel per se, but i think the principle would still hold up.
How sad are we knowing this stuff?
ADR does not apply to the fuel used by the car etc. It also does not apply to substances carried in machinery.
A lot of the 3.5 tonne rule is about the need for driving training and equipment that is required to be carried, but, this exemption has now gone as of the begining of 2007, also the other requirements of ADR did apply whatever the size of the vehicle eg pakaging labelling etc.
we could get into all the exemptions and limited quantities and thresehold quanitities but trust me life is to short.
ADR does not apply to the fuel used by the car etc. It also does not apply to substances carried in machinery.
A lot of the 3.5 tonne rule is about the need for driving training and equipment that is required to be carried, but, this exemption has now gone as of the begining of 2007, also the other requirements of ADR did apply whatever the size of the vehicle eg pakaging labelling etc.
we could get into all the exemptions and limited quantities and thresehold quanitities but trust me life is to short.
Edited by R39S1 on Saturday 23 June 10:34
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