Company Speed Advice.....
Discussion
Have a read of this and let me know what you think.... And no fence sitting.! 
MONTHLY CAMPAIGN
Safety in Carparks (and on the road)
Our IS carparks are not overburdened with signage or lines telling us to slow down and give way, although you may have noticed the small 5 mph signs displayed on lamp posts. Have you noticed your own speed when driving in and out? Have you had to dodge someone else leaving work in a hurry?
Here's a reminder about staying safe while moving around our carparks ...
- NEVER exceed the 5mph speed limit, it's there for a reason
- Vehicles should always be parked in a dedicated parking area
- Always use any available footpaths while going to and from your car
- NEVER leave your vehicle with the engine on.
... and some interesting numbers from the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents website ...
Are you 'Dying' to get there? Research confirms:
- Each 1 mph reduction in average speed is expected to cut accident frequency by 5%
- Speeders are disproportionately involved in collisions
- Some people do not accept that speed is a problem. Even those that say they don't always act accordingly
- Drivers often do not understand why speed limits are set as they are. In some cases it may not be clear to them what the limit is
- Smooth driving without fast acceleration and deceleration is less polluting than harsh driving
- In the UK, there are still 1.6 million injuries in workplaces every year
- Nearly a quarter of all deaths involving vehicles at work occur while vehicles are reversing.
With thanks to XXXXXXX for managing this campaign ... Watch this space for a new campaign towards the end of July ... all suggestions for future topics are welcome, as are volunteer organisers!
MONTHLY CAMPAIGN
Safety in Carparks (and on the road)
Our IS carparks are not overburdened with signage or lines telling us to slow down and give way, although you may have noticed the small 5 mph signs displayed on lamp posts. Have you noticed your own speed when driving in and out? Have you had to dodge someone else leaving work in a hurry?
Here's a reminder about staying safe while moving around our carparks ...
- NEVER exceed the 5mph speed limit, it's there for a reason
- Vehicles should always be parked in a dedicated parking area
- Always use any available footpaths while going to and from your car
- NEVER leave your vehicle with the engine on.
... and some interesting numbers from the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents website ...
Are you 'Dying' to get there? Research confirms:
- Each 1 mph reduction in average speed is expected to cut accident frequency by 5%
- Speeders are disproportionately involved in collisions
- Some people do not accept that speed is a problem. Even those that say they don't always act accordingly
- Drivers often do not understand why speed limits are set as they are. In some cases it may not be clear to them what the limit is
- Smooth driving without fast acceleration and deceleration is less polluting than harsh driving
- In the UK, there are still 1.6 million injuries in workplaces every year
- Nearly a quarter of all deaths involving vehicles at work occur while vehicles are reversing.
With thanks to XXXXXXX for managing this campaign ... Watch this space for a new campaign towards the end of July ... all suggestions for future topics are welcome, as are volunteer organisers!
The "dying" stuff is a strange mix of truth, fiction and rubbish, but the car park stuff is more relevant. I remember being told on my first defensive driving course a few years ago that 10% of all accidents happen in car parks. They're not usually going to be life-threatening, but can be annoying and potentially painful if it's your neck that gets jolted in a low-speed clash.
As always, take what's good and ignore the rest. Companies have to be seen to be giving out H&S messages and this is the sort of result that sometimes happens. Wait till you get told about CO2, carbon footprints and switching everyone to low-energy lightbulbs to save the planet...
As always, take what's good and ignore the rest. Companies have to be seen to be giving out H&S messages and this is the sort of result that sometimes happens. Wait till you get told about CO2, carbon footprints and switching everyone to low-energy lightbulbs to save the planet...
Peter Ward said:
Wait till you get told about CO2, carbon footprints and switching everyone to low-energy lightbulbs to save the planet...
Oh they already did that! "We switched to a energy provider that uses nukes to produce power cutting our carbon footprint." Err no actually you changed nothing. If we claim the energy from the nuke power stations the oil/gas/coal ones will provide to others. Muppets.Munter said:
....some interesting numbers from the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents website ...
Are you 'Dying' to get there? Research confirms:
- Each 1 mph reduction in average speed is expected to cut accident frequency by 5%
- Speeders are disproportionately involved in collisions
- Some people do not accept that speed is a problem. Even those that say they don't always act accordingly
- Drivers often do not understand why speed limits are set as they are. In some cases it may not be clear to them what the limit is
- Smooth driving without fast acceleration and deceleration is less polluting than harsh driving
- In the UK, there are still 1.6 million injuries in workplaces every year
- Nearly a quarter of all deaths involving vehicles at work occur while vehicles are reversing.
With thanks to XXXXXXX for managing this campaign ... Watch this space for a new campaign towards the end of July ... all suggestions for future topics are welcome, as are volunteer organisers!
Munter - are you saying here's some data thats worth considering as it seems to disagree with other published data. Or are you saying it's wrong just because it is. Or are you saying its wrong because (insert your reasons). Or are you saying it's right.Are you 'Dying' to get there? Research confirms:
- Each 1 mph reduction in average speed is expected to cut accident frequency by 5%
- Speeders are disproportionately involved in collisions
- Some people do not accept that speed is a problem. Even those that say they don't always act accordingly
- Drivers often do not understand why speed limits are set as they are. In some cases it may not be clear to them what the limit is
- Smooth driving without fast acceleration and deceleration is less polluting than harsh driving
- In the UK, there are still 1.6 million injuries in workplaces every year
- Nearly a quarter of all deaths involving vehicles at work occur while vehicles are reversing.
With thanks to XXXXXXX for managing this campaign ... Watch this space for a new campaign towards the end of July ... all suggestions for future topics are welcome, as are volunteer organisers!
I can't see where you're coming from with what you've written.
BFF
"Are you 'Dying' to get there? Research confirms:
- Each 1 mph reduction in average speed is expected to cut accident frequency by 5%"
This, of course, is complete b***x. This was a very poor piece of statistics linking completely unrelated studies. The SafeSpeed site carries a full explanation.
Sorry, no sitting on the fence on this one.
- Each 1 mph reduction in average speed is expected to cut accident frequency by 5%"
This, of course, is complete b***x. This was a very poor piece of statistics linking completely unrelated studies. The SafeSpeed site carries a full explanation.
Sorry, no sitting on the fence on this one.
Edited by TrevorH on Tuesday 26th June 12:55
Munter said:
Each 1 mph reduction in average speed is expected to cut accident frequency by 5%
You can't compare crash freqency when deciding on speed limits because the slower limit will ALWAYS have a slower journey time and hence a lower crash frequency.You should compare crashes per driven mile or something similar.
I personally would add "If you have the skill, always reverse into a parking space", I always do for the following reason. As you approach the parking space, you are totally aware of whats going on around you.
If you drive into the space, when you return to your car, get in, sort yourself out, etc etc, you may not be fully aware of whats going behind you as you reverse out, like pedestrians, who ignore those little white reversing lights on your car, and continue to walk past you, possibly children walking past, and of course other cars moving around.
If you drive into the space, when you return to your car, get in, sort yourself out, etc etc, you may not be fully aware of whats going behind you as you reverse out, like pedestrians, who ignore those little white reversing lights on your car, and continue to walk past you, possibly children walking past, and of course other cars moving around.
Vipers said:
I personally would add "If you have the skill, always reverse into a parking space", I always do for the following reason. As you approach the parking space, you are totally aware of whats going on around you.
If you drive into the space, when you return to your car, get in, sort yourself out, etc etc, you may not be fully aware of whats going behind you as you reverse out, like pedestrians, who ignore those little white reversing lights on your car, and continue to walk past you, possibly children walking past, and of course other cars moving around.
That depends on whether you need access to the boot and how busy the car park is really. Otherwise, reversing a car into a space is actually easier considering the dynamics involved.If you drive into the space, when you return to your car, get in, sort yourself out, etc etc, you may not be fully aware of whats going behind you as you reverse out, like pedestrians, who ignore those little white reversing lights on your car, and continue to walk past you, possibly children walking past, and of course other cars moving around.
Big Fat F'r said:
Munter said:
....some interesting numbers from the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents website ...
Are you 'Dying' to get there? Research confirms:
- Each 1 mph reduction in average speed is expected to cut accident frequency by 5%
- Speeders are disproportionately involved in collisions
- Some people do not accept that speed is a problem. Even those that say they don't always act accordingly
- Drivers often do not understand why speed limits are set as they are. In some cases it may not be clear to them what the limit is
- Smooth driving without fast acceleration and deceleration is less polluting than harsh driving
- In the UK, there are still 1.6 million injuries in workplaces every year
- Nearly a quarter of all deaths involving vehicles at work occur while vehicles are reversing.
With thanks to XXXXXXX for managing this campaign ... Watch this space for a new campaign towards the end of July ... all suggestions for future topics are welcome, as are volunteer organisers!
Munter - are you saying here's some data thats worth considering as it seems to disagree with other published data. Or are you saying it's wrong just because it is. Or are you saying its wrong because (insert your reasons). Or are you saying it's right.Are you 'Dying' to get there? Research confirms:
- Each 1 mph reduction in average speed is expected to cut accident frequency by 5%
- Speeders are disproportionately involved in collisions
- Some people do not accept that speed is a problem. Even those that say they don't always act accordingly
- Drivers often do not understand why speed limits are set as they are. In some cases it may not be clear to them what the limit is
- Smooth driving without fast acceleration and deceleration is less polluting than harsh driving
- In the UK, there are still 1.6 million injuries in workplaces every year
- Nearly a quarter of all deaths involving vehicles at work occur while vehicles are reversing.
With thanks to XXXXXXX for managing this campaign ... Watch this space for a new campaign towards the end of July ... all suggestions for future topics are welcome, as are volunteer organisers!
I can't see where you're coming from with what you've written.
BFF
Fidgits said:
Also, i'd query the 1.6 million accidents, a majority of which are car related - but cars REVERSING... probably within the 5mph speed limit, so how that jump occured seems a touch dodgy!
Probably reversing vehicles on building sites. Nothing to do with the roads (or car parks) what so ever.The whole "campaign" sounded to me like meaningless bable with most of the "interesting statistics" taken and used hugely out of their original context.
Vipers said:
I personally would add "If you have the skill, always reverse into a parking space", I always do for the following reason. As you approach the parking space, you are totally aware of whats going on around you.
If you drive into the space, when you return to your car, get in, sort yourself out, etc etc, you may not be fully aware of whats going behind you as you reverse out, like pedestrians, who ignore those little white reversing lights on your car, and continue to walk past you, possibly children walking past, and of course other cars moving around.
Naa, i drive in but employ a man with a red flag to watch me in and out....If you drive into the space, when you return to your car, get in, sort yourself out, etc etc, you may not be fully aware of whats going behind you as you reverse out, like pedestrians, who ignore those little white reversing lights on your car, and continue to walk past you, possibly children walking past, and of course other cars moving around.
Big Rod said:
Vipers said:
I personally would add "If you have the skill, always reverse into a parking space", I always do for the following reason. As you approach the parking space, you are totally aware of whats going on around you.
If you drive into the space, when you return to your car, get in, sort yourself out, etc etc, you may not be fully aware of whats going behind you as you reverse out, like pedestrians, who ignore those little white reversing lights on your car, and continue to walk past you, possibly children walking past, and of course other cars moving around.
That depends on whether you need access to the boot and how busy the car park is really. Otherwise, reversing a car into a space is actually easier considering the dynamics involved.If you drive into the space, when you return to your car, get in, sort yourself out, etc etc, you may not be fully aware of whats going behind you as you reverse out, like pedestrians, who ignore those little white reversing lights on your car, and continue to walk past you, possibly children walking past, and of course other cars moving around.
Munter said:
Big Fat F'r said:
Munter said:
....some interesting numbers from the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents website ...
Are you 'Dying' to get there? Research confirms:
- Each 1 mph reduction in average speed is expected to cut accident frequency by 5%
- Speeders are disproportionately involved in collisions
- Some people do not accept that speed is a problem. Even those that say they don't always act accordingly
- Drivers often do not understand why speed limits are set as they are. In some cases it may not be clear to them what the limit is
- Smooth driving without fast acceleration and deceleration is less polluting than harsh driving
- In the UK, there are still 1.6 million injuries in workplaces every year
- Nearly a quarter of all deaths involving vehicles at work occur while vehicles are reversing.
With thanks to XXXXXXX for managing this campaign ... Watch this space for a new campaign towards the end of July ... all suggestions for future topics are welcome, as are volunteer organisers!
Munter - are you saying here's some data thats worth considering as it seems to disagree with other published data. Or are you saying it's wrong just because it is. Or are you saying its wrong because (insert your reasons). Or are you saying it's right.Are you 'Dying' to get there? Research confirms:
- Each 1 mph reduction in average speed is expected to cut accident frequency by 5%
- Speeders are disproportionately involved in collisions
- Some people do not accept that speed is a problem. Even those that say they don't always act accordingly
- Drivers often do not understand why speed limits are set as they are. In some cases it may not be clear to them what the limit is
- Smooth driving without fast acceleration and deceleration is less polluting than harsh driving
- In the UK, there are still 1.6 million injuries in workplaces every year
- Nearly a quarter of all deaths involving vehicles at work occur while vehicles are reversing.
With thanks to XXXXXXX for managing this campaign ... Watch this space for a new campaign towards the end of July ... all suggestions for future topics are welcome, as are volunteer organisers!
I can't see where you're coming from with what you've written.
BFF
BFF
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