Special Constables
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Mr2Mike

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20,143 posts

286 months

Tuesday 10th July 2007
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A friend of mine has the misfortune to work with possibly the biggest cretin I have ever met. He would be a "chav" or "scrote" in most peoples sense of the word, and is so full of his own self importance it's untrue. He's quite a small chap, but walks around with his chest puffed out to try and make himself look "hard".

Now somehow, he's become a special (or "special needs" as the people he works with call him). Clearly there can be no attitude requirements for entry! However, he appears to be grossly abusing his position. At any opportunity, even when off duty, he will display his badge to anyone he thinks has wronged him and threaten them with arrest and prosecution. The people he works with usualy give him a cuff and stick him in the industrial wastebins when he does this sort of thing at work, but he's always boasting about hows he's stopped drivers to give them a bollocking and threaten them.

Clearly this kind of behaviour is not acceptable. He is simply hiding behind a badge, feeling it gives him power over other people. What is the best course of action to demote this pond life from "special" to "scummy citizen"?

Zod

35,295 posts

289 months

Tuesday 10th July 2007
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Report him for it. He is clearly abusing the badge and so should lose it.

Davel

8,982 posts

289 months

Tuesday 10th July 2007
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Wot e said!

Chrispy Porker

17,736 posts

259 months

Tuesday 10th July 2007
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make a complaint.

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Tuesday 10th July 2007
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Why do I have a picture of someone who looks like this in my mind?



BusaBoy

2 posts

232 months

Tuesday 10th July 2007
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Get some evidence! ie recording him being abusive to some one then send it to his Inspector!

SplatSpeed

7,491 posts

282 months

Tuesday 10th July 2007
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all police are 'Special'

SS2.

14,712 posts

269 months

Tuesday 10th July 2007
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Bing o said:
Why do I have a picture of someone who looks like this in my mind?

Funny, I can't seem to shift this image out of my head..


skymaster

731 posts

238 months

Thursday 12th July 2007
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It's not just the specials either. I have known of (not personally I might like to add) some utter chav scum who you wouldn't trust to take your bins out get into the police. Seems their recruitment process doesn't have a safety net for this sort of thing. Sad but true I am afraid

ipsg.glf

1,590 posts

249 months

Thursday 12th July 2007
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Report!

Troesma

432 posts

245 months

Thursday 12th July 2007
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Ditto. Even though some psychometric tests should be in place when recruiting, they are by no means infallible, and some rotten fruits may slip through. Best way to deal with that is by reporting.

MilnerR

8,273 posts

289 months

Thursday 12th July 2007
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I know of two such people who have started out as specials and are now regular officers. One uses her warrant card to get into places free and the other introduces himself to everyone as PC ******* even when he's off duty. He will also threaten pretty much anyone he sees with section 5 public order offences if they say anything stronger than golly gosh. He threatened a group of us with section 5 because someone in our group used the word bullshit whilst stood talking in the pub. On the whole the BiB are professional hard working pragmatic sensible people but the nature of the job does attract a lot of idiots, some of which get through.

bga

8,134 posts

282 months

Thursday 12th July 2007
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argh, misread special for PCSO.

Edited by bga on Thursday 12th July 10:35

Chrispy Porker

17,736 posts

259 months

Thursday 12th July 2007
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Usually they get weeded out in their probation though. That is why it lasts for 2 years.
The sort of people being described here wouldn't last long on a group in my experience. Often it is their colleagues who pick up on the wrong'uns, and if they don't the first line supervisors will.

There have always been mistakes made in recruitment. Years ago police raided a brothel and amongst the customers was a probationer. He said ( flashing his nice new warrant card) ' It's OK I'm in the job !'

So he was, until the next morning. smile

Troesma

432 posts

245 months

Thursday 12th July 2007
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Chrispy Porker said:
Years ago police raided a brothel and amongst the customers was a probationer. He said ( flashing his nice new warrant card) ' It's OK I'm in the job !'

So he was, until the next morning. smile
... and a smile of achievement when he was booted hehe

skymaster

731 posts

238 months

Thursday 12th July 2007
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A very good friend of mine was a party of old uni friends a while back. There was a guy there that had just joined the met. He described it as 'being a good laugh' and 'good fun being able intimidate people' he was the sort of yob whos words become less and less clear as the beers flowed, the following morning they all went to a cafe to get a hangover cure in the form of a cooked breakfast. He tagged along, can of lager in hand, still completely wasted and casuing a ruckus on the streets of london. They rest of the group had to tell him to either behave or go home before he got them into trouble.

I would hope that the guy described in the origainl post eventually picks on the wrong person in the form of an off duty experienced police person and gets suitably removed soon after.

djohnson

3,687 posts

254 months

Thursday 12th July 2007
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A mate who is a PO had an attitude like this for a while. He didn't like the refs decision during a 5 a side game (and to be fair the ref was a snivelling worm of a man and had made a very poor decision) so went to the changing room got his card and used it to threaten the ref. I did find this quite funny at the time. However ref makes a complaint to the league (complaint is littered with spelling mistakes and reads like a 5 year old had written it). The league (or FA or whoever it was) makes a complaint to the police force and it became a significant disciplinary issue, my mate was subject to interview by police internal investigators, full disciplinary matter which ended with the incident and a warning recorded on his employment record.

Chrispy Porker

17,736 posts

259 months

Thursday 12th July 2007
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I can remember the days when if you were playing rugby for the force and got sent off, you were up before the chief.
Don't ask how I know.

Cooperman

4,428 posts

281 months

Thursday 12th July 2007
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I have two good friends in the job. One in now a C.I. at the Home Office and the other is an Inspector.
A few years ago, one Saturday morning, they were out-and-about in civvies. They were 'nipping along safely' in a BMW when a young probationery plod jumped out into the road and stopped them. His words were "What sort of f*****g driving do you call that then?". To say that to two MOP's would be bad enough, but to say it to two Class 1 Met Sgt. Drivers - big mistake!
I think they visited the local nick and saw his Guv, who happened to be a friend of my buddies. A word or two in young plod's shell-like on the Monday, followed by a quick 'attitude transplant'.

Troesma

432 posts

245 months

Thursday 12th July 2007
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Cooperman said:
I have two good friends in the job. One in now a C.I. at the Home Office and the other is an Inspector.
A few years ago, one Saturday morning, they were out-and-about in civvies. They were 'nipping along safely' in a BMW when a young probationery plod jumped out into the road and stopped them. His words were "What sort of f*****g driving do you call that then?". To say that to two MOP's would be bad enough, but to say it to two Class 1 Met Sgt. Drivers - big mistake!
I think they visited the local nick and saw his Guv, who happened to be a friend of my buddies. A word or two in young plod's shell-like on the Monday, followed by a quick 'attitude transplant'.
After the insulting remark, did they keep their cool on-site (followed by the run to this a**e nick for a word or two with his superiors) or once he finalised the patronising sting, they showed their badges whilst adding "wrong number, mate"..?

That surely taught him a lesson or 2.