RE: Rampant Robin
Wednesday 11th July 2007

Rampant Robin

Reliant Robin caught doing 70mph. Confusion ensues.


What do you call a Reliant Robin on top of a hill? A miracle. Unless you’re a member of the

Faster than a speeding bullet? No.
Faster than a speeding bullet? No.
Cambridgeshire Police Force, in which case you’d call it an everyday menace to society.

Gordon Maltby, 46, has just finished a three day court case for dangerous driving after the police ‘caught’ him in his Reliant Robin (with three passengers) overtaking their unmarked Mondeo at 70mph in a 40mph zone.

Thankfully, he won the case after the court was shown that the car couldn’t reach that speed.

When asked how he felt about the verdict he delivered a Del-Boy esque ‘Lovely Jubbly’.

On a more serious note, the divorced father-of-four added: "I had four appearances at the magistrates court and the three-day trial must have cost tens of thousands of pounds. It was just farcical. I am a bit angry because I have lost so much time and money going to court."

Mr Maltby, from Waterbeach, near Cambridge, insisted he sensibly overtook the police car at 40mph after it had slowed down outside a car showroom.The allegation of dangerous driving, he added, was "rubbish".

He was backed by independent accident investigator Graham Oakley, who said the Robin was incapable of doing 70mph with four people on board. The former Essex traffic policeman also explained it could not have lifted its front wheel off the ground or created sparks - as had been claimed by the police - as it has a fibreglass body. Nicola Devas, defending, told the court the officers had "over-egged the pudding".

Mr. Maltby said that he drives Robins exclusively because he only has a motorbike licence and isn’t allowed to drive normal cars. He also commented that the fastest he’s driven a Robin was around 55-60mph. On a dual-carriage way. On his own.   

Source: Daily Mail

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hahithestevieboy

Original Poster:

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Wednesday 11th July 2007
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So when are the officers involved in court for attempting to pervert the course of justice / perjury?

Fidgits

17,202 posts

260 months

Wednesday 11th July 2007
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rofl

SplatSpeed

7,491 posts

282 months

Wednesday 11th July 2007
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quick remove the nos bottle

rchadd

123 posts

248 months

Wednesday 11th July 2007
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so were the cops lying? why do that?

what had they been smoking?

RVVUNM

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240 months

Wednesday 11th July 2007
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Wicked.hehe

Neomagic

386 posts

232 months

Wednesday 11th July 2007
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rchadd said:
so were the cops lying? why do that?

what had they been smoking?
No they where probably telling the truth or at least something very close to it but cannot prove it.

Think about it lol, the guy has only got a bike license yet wants a car I bet you that robin far from standard under the bonnet. wink

Edited by Neomagic on Wednesday 11th July 14:15

Bizzle

544 posts

232 months

Wednesday 11th July 2007
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I would guess the robin is hiding a ZX12R engine... with a turbo...

mental.
great story!

FWDRacer

3,565 posts

255 months

Wednesday 11th July 2007
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"Rumours that the police had slowed to a stop, thereby allowing the errant Robin to pass, whilst on double yellow lines to pick up fresh donuts have also been strenously denied by Cambridgshire cunstablary..."

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

286 months

Wednesday 11th July 2007
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Not fit to be police officers.

And they wonder why we moan....rolleyes

R_U_LOCAL

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239 months

Wednesday 11th July 2007
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hahithestevieboy said:
So when are the officers involved in court for attempting to pervert the course of justice / perjury?
Who says they've lied?

All the defence hs to do is introduce an element of reasonable doubt - they don't have to prove the Officers have lied.

I've never lied in court, but I've lost quite a few cases.

Edited by R_U_LOCAL on Wednesday 11th July 14:25

Marcellus

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250 months

Wednesday 11th July 2007
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I reckon; Lying b'stard 1 Police 0

Flat in Fifth

48,943 posts

282 months

Wednesday 11th July 2007
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Actually a well driven three wheeler in the right circumstances can be the very bar steward to keep up with.

One of those old Hillman Imp engined Bond bugs gave the boys in Derbyshire a real run around some years back. Narrow roads, narrow vehicle, good (for the day) power to weight ratio (tweaked iirc), driven well.

Mr Freefall

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289 months

Wednesday 11th July 2007
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R_U_LOCAL said:
hahithestevieboy said:
So when are the officers involved in court for attempting to pervert the course of justice / perjury?
Who says they've lied?

All the defence hs to do is introduce an element of reasonable doubt - they don't have to prove the Officers have lied.

I've never lied in court, but I've lost quite a few cases.

Edited by R_U_LOCAL on Wednesday 11th July 14:25
He was backed by independent accident investigator Graham Oakley, who said the Robin was incapable of doing 70mph with four people on board. The former Essex traffic policeman also explained it could not have lifted its front wheel off the ground or created sparks - as had been claimed by the police - as it has a fibreglass body.



What were you saying again??? lifted is wheel off the ground, hmm popping a whellie, whilst sparks come from the car.

Who says they've lied? hmmm let me read that again... and " as had been claimed by the police "


darren_S2

32 posts

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Wednesday 11th July 2007
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Am not bashing the cops in anyway, but this really makes my piss boil.

Cops have been found to "over-egged the pudding" but I bet they will not even get a "telling off" and be freed to do the same again. They can't be named and shamed as now every time they give evidence this case would just be used to taint their character. They will probably be back on patrol by now.

If that were a normal person they would have thrown the book at him probably and attached all sorts of charges on top.

Apologies to all the BiB who know the job and reponsibilites, are honest and use their judgement correctly and I appreciate what you do. I dont question the freedom you provide and the means by which you provide it, but in this case that freedom was trying to be taken away from someone who clearly wasn't in the wrong.

I guess it is like in all walks of life.. you can't help but stumble on a few w*nkers now and again just these one's can hide behind a badge.

tigger1

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252 months

Wednesday 11th July 2007
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Neomagic said:
rchadd said:
so were the cops lying? why do that?

what had they been smoking?
No they where probably telling the truth or at least something very close to it but cannot prove it.

Think about it lol, the guy has only got a bike license yet wants a car I bet you that robin far from standard under the bonnet. wink

Edited by Neomagic on Wednesday 11th July 14:15
It will have been his car that was tested by his independent witness. The fact that the officers claimed there were sparks suggests that they might well have been telling some porkies....

R_U_LOCAL

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Wednesday 11th July 2007
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Why? Are all the suspension components made of fibreglass too? And the exhaust - is that fibreglass? Just because the cars body is made from fibreglass doesn't mean it's incapable of causing sparks.

As for the "independant witness", he will actually be a witness on behalf of the defence, paid for by the defence. What evidence do we have that he tested the car under the same circumstances?

Like I said, the defence only have to introduce an element of doubt - they don't have to prove the defendant's innocence in the same way that the prosecution have to prove their guilt.

I'd say the defence has done a very good job, but there's no evidence to say the Police lied.

Fire99

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Wednesday 11th July 2007
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well having been the victim of a police statement in the past which was a greater act of fiction than Enid Blyton, lets face it.. There are SOME Police who would say the earh was square to get a conviction..

Not saying this was or wasn't but just cause they are Police doesn;t make them immune from fibbing!!

R_U_LOCAL

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Wednesday 11th July 2007
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Fire99 said:
well having been the victim of a police statement in the past which was a greater act of fiction than Enid Blyton, lets face it.. There are SOME Police who would say the earh was square to get a conviction..

Not saying this was or wasn't but just cause they are Police doesn;t make them immune from fibbing!!
Don't get me wrong - I know there are Officers who are willing to lie, but I don't see any evidence of it here.

Just evidence of a weak prosecution case and a strong defence case. That's miles away from proof of false evidence or testimony.

tigger1

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R_U_LOCAL said:
As for the "independant witness", he will actually be a witness on behalf of the defence, paid for by the defence. What evidence do we have that he tested the car under the same circumstances?
No, an independent witness acts on behalf of the court...and his sole duty is to the court.

R_U_LOCAL

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Wednesday 11th July 2007
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tigger1 said:
R_U_LOCAL said:
As for the "independant witness", he will actually be a witness on behalf of the defence, paid for by the defence. What evidence do we have that he tested the car under the same circumstances?
No, an independent witness acts on behalf of the court...and his sole duty is to the court.
Who paid for him to carry out his investigations and to appear at court?