ANPR in action nr Bristol

[Six Fiend]

Just got a linky from Avon & Somerset Police to this. Interesting number of agencies involved when you read the lower section...

http://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/LocalPages/Ne...

[Just_a_guide]

NOT always picking on the motorist, looks lick some bad boys and girls had a bad day.

Total Number of vehicles stopped: 453
Total arrests made: 47
Summary of arrests

3 arrests for driving with excess alcohol
1 arrest for driving whilst unfit through drugs after a FIT test and positive ION track test for cocaine
19 arrests for possession of Class A drugs
8 arrests for possession of Class C drugs (and 8 cannabis seizures in addition to the arrests)
1 arrested for burglary (wanted person)
1 arrest for immigration offences
1 arrest for going equipped
2 arrests for theft
1 arrest for public order offences
3 arrests for possession of offensive weapons (2 for bladed articles)
3 arrests for bilking offences (ANPR hits on vehicles)
1 arrest for dangerous driving due to condition of vehicle
1 arrest for court warrants
2 arrests for road traffic related offences (insurance)
£8000 cash seized

Summary of other incidents/process

93 persons stopped and searched
14 vehicles seized under Section 165a Road Traffic Act
66 ION Track tests for Class A drugs with 55 positive hits
16 vehicles seized by DVLA
19 drivers dealt with by DVLA for offences and dealt with at the roadside
7 vehicles issued with V79 notices (update of vehicle records)
88 vehicles subject of VOSA prohibition notices
3 persons dealt with by Works and Pensions for benefit fraud
3 positive hits for customs on fuel duty (147 checks)
Stolen motor home from the Yorkshire area recovered (false plates)

[rich 36]

On the face of it, a good day spent wielding a big stick

I've been wondering what the drawbacks are of its use
both in pro-actively seeking out misceants by number plate

and lack of plod elsewhere, and I'm as yet undecided
but I'd be interested to read others thoughts

[Just_a_guide]

Know what you are saying,

Criminals use cars just as every one else, and looking at the big picture and resources used it is horrific, but what would all these plods be doing other wise, I would guess most would be doing the same with a hunch or gut feeling. I bet if you were to look at how many arrest etc that number would be doing on a given day you can bet that ANPR is more fruit full.

[rich 36]

I do hope this is case,

but its not an all-cure to societies ills
in much the same way cameras on posts won't be

[Just_a_guide]

rich 36 said:

all-cure to societies ills

Laws are partly formed for the sake of good men, in order to instruct them how they may live on friendly terms with one another, and partly for the sake of those who refuse to be instructed, whose spirit cannot be subdued, or softened, or hindered from plunging into evil.
Plato (427 BC - 347 BC)

2500 years and counting you will never cure societies ills...

[hutchingsp]

I would guess that for the most part, the people who come here and complain about ANPR are complaining because they are generally honest people who feel they've been wronged if the ANPR gets it wrong and the resultant BiB refuses to accept they have insurance and the computer's wrong etc.

I'd also guess that in the real world the vast, vast bulk of criminals are the sort of people who, well let's face it if you burgle houses for a living you probably aren't going to care too much about having valid tax, MOT or insurance are you?

I'd be interested to see what any BiB here think?

Of course I'm not sure how you get from "we stopped you as the computer says you have no tax/insurance" to "we'll just check in the boot, Hello Hello what have we here then?"

[peterguk]

Just_a_guide said:

NOT always picking on the motorist, looks lick some bad boys and girls had a bad day.

Total Number of vehicles stopped: 453
Total arrests made: 47
Summary of arrests

3 arrests for driving with excess alcohol
1 arrest for driving whilst unfit through drugs after a FIT test and positive ION track test for cocaine
19 arrests for possession of Class A drugs
8 arrests for possession of Class C drugs (and 8 cannabis seizures in addition to the arrests)
1 arrested for burglary (wanted person)
1 arrest for immigration offences
1 arrest for going equipped
2 arrests for theft
1 arrest for public order offences
3 arrests for possession of offensive weapons (2 for bladed articles)
3 arrests for bilking offences (ANPR hits on vehicles)
1 arrest for dangerous driving due to condition of vehicle
1 arrest for court warrants
2 arrests for road traffic related offences (insurance)
£8000 cash seized

Summary of other incidents/process

93 persons stopped and searched
14 vehicles seized under Section 165a Road Traffic Act
66 ION Track tests for Class A drugs with 55 positive hits
16 vehicles seized by DVLA
19 drivers dealt with by DVLA for offences and dealt with at the roadside
7 vehicles issued with V79 notices (update of vehicle records)
88 vehicles subject of VOSA prohibition notices
3 persons dealt with by Works and Pensions for benefit fraud
3 positive hits for customs on fuel duty (147 checks)
Stolen motor home from the Yorkshire area recovered (false plates)

IMHO a fantastic result of BiB resources.

[DucatiGary]

i find this hard to believe.

48 arrests in total.

27 arrested on drugs charges?

surely there aint that many druggies driving around ?

[Greendubber]

DucatiGary said:

i find this hard to believe.

48 arrests in total.

27 arrested on drugs charges?

surely there aint that many druggies driving around ?

Trust me, shed loads mate. All too common.

[R_U_LOCAL]

DucatiGary said:

i find this hard to believe.

48 arrests in total.

27 arrested on drugs charges?

surely there aint that many druggies driving around ?

Surely you're not that naive?

[Marf]

BiB's tell me, would the 453 cars pulled all have registered as no tax/insurance/MOT?

[Mattt]

3 arrests for bilking offences (ANPR hits on vehicles)?

[Greendubber]

Mattt said:

3 arrests for bilking offences (ANPR hits on vehicles)?

Bilking, making off without paying for fuel.

T

[vonhosen]

Marf said:

BiB's tell me, would the 453 cars pulled all have registered as no tax/insurance/MOT?

No.

[Marf]

So was this for want of a better term a "check point" or were officers choosing cars to pull?

Edited by Marf on Friday 20th July 23:38

[vonhosen]

Marf said:

So was this for want of a better term a "check point" or were officers choosing cars to pull?

Edited by Marf on Friday 20th July 23:38

The ANPR doesn't only check & provide hits on no tax/insurance reports, there are a variety of other reports that will flag vehicles up.

[Marf]

Such as?

[R_U_LOCAL]

Marf said:

Such as?

Intelligence reports, PNC circulations, stolen reports, warant system checks.

The list isn't endless, but it's quite long.

[DucatiGary]

R_U_LOCAL said:

DucatiGary said:

i find this hard to believe.

48 arrests in total.

27 arrested on drugs charges?

surely there aint that many druggies driving around ?

Surely you're not that naive?

so your saying more than 60% of road users are on drugs ?

and im being unreasonable to think thats wrong?

Edited by DucatiGary on Saturday 21st July 00:03