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Nervus

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162 posts

232 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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Travelling on a single carrageway with varying speed limits i.e. 60mph to 30mph through little towns etc then back up to 60mph I came upon a white Ford Focus with 'Police Driver Training' signs in the rear window. It had blue lights mounted on the roof but no other visable markers.

However as we continued to progress along the road at about 55 -60 mph we both came upon a slow moving HGV which was restricted to 40 mph. As I know this road reasonably well, I knew there was a suitable place for passing ahead in less than 1 mile.

Anyhow, the police training car whilst constantly tail-gating, kept weaving into the opposing lane for a look and then pulling back in when they either couldn't see enough of the road or there was another vehicle coming the other way.

When we got to a suitable passing place, what did they do? They stayed put, in-fact they didn't even bob out for a look. I actually waited a little while expecting them to pull out and pass but they didn't. So, I indicated, pulled out and passsed the procession with ease and no drama. Great I thought, a clear view, until said Focus comes screaming past with the lights and sirens going. I thought oh, they must be on a shout or something, but no they were after me and pulled me at the roadside.

I refused to get out of my car at the request of the lady police officer who turned out to be driving. She then proceeded to yell at me and said I needed a good telling off. It turns out, that I should have appreciated that she was 'under training' and had no right to pass them!

"Even though, you were sat at 40mph in a 60mph limit zone, 2ft of the back of a HGV with no chance of stopping in time if it braked etc etc?" I said.

That was it - she exploded, ranting that she was on duty and deemed my manouvre to be dangerous driving and she's going to "do me". At which point I burst out laughing which just made her even more irrate. She then went back to her car and got her collegue to start looking around my car and he started measuring my tyre depths and running some sort of check for insurance etc. The cars 3 months old, so you would think that the tyres would be in pretty good nick. They were obviusly clutching at straws to nick me for something and I was there for 10 mins.

To think that this shining example of attitude and aptitude of one of Northumbria's finest is going to be let loose in a Traffic car some day!

Chrispy Porker

17,738 posts

259 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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Probably not.
Sounds like a failure of what ever course she was on to me. Big Time.
What did the instructor do during all this?

carrotchomper

18,331 posts

235 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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No, she's right, you should not have passed them....



Because they should have been making maximum progress at the time.

Bruised ego, nothing more. Unless there was something in the circumstances to make the overtake dangerous.

tommundy

686 posts

249 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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I wait in anticipation for the day that this happens to me. I hope it doesn't however, but if it did I would like to think that the Office would have at least some sense in them somewhere.

Cheers
Tom

tigger1

8,478 posts

252 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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Presumably you made a note of her number?

Get a nice letter in suggesting that maybe she is in need of more training, but perhaps public roads aren't the place for it?

jith

2,752 posts

246 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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Hmmmm.......another full moon!

RaksP

760 posts

235 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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well done again po-po! i wouldnt expect anything else!

SplatSpeed

7,491 posts

282 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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you know they were plod

and you know if you overtake them they are going to throw the toys out of the pram and say how much better at driving they are than you

despite the crashed police cars at the station or their shocking driving standards they are superior human biengs who have at least 2 o levels

7db

6,060 posts

261 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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Nervus said:
She then proceeded to yell at me and said I needed a good telling off.
Did you point out that that's the wife's job?

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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You should have congratulated them on finally being able to overtake the lorry!!

Attitude test failed (but not by the OP...)

Balmoral Green

42,561 posts

279 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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You should never, ever, overtake plod, no matter how legitimate the manouvre may be. No good will ever come of it, ever. Now you know.

Unless they are in lane 1 of a DC or motorway and you ease past them whilst staying within the speed limit.

R_U_LOCAL

2,708 posts

239 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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If any of my students were ever overtaken by a member of the public, the student would get a right bollocking. Providing the other driver did so safely and legally. And providing, also, that we'd reached the stage in the course where I want my students to be driving progressively and looking for overtakes.

If the other driver overtook in a dangerous or illegal way, however, I'd occasionally stop them if I had the time, the inclination, and their driving was particularly bad.

Are you sure your overtake was perfectly safe and legal?

Edited by R_U_LOCAL on Thursday 2nd August 15:40

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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The OP wasn't charged so we can assume not....

R_U_LOCAL

2,708 posts

239 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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Bing o said:
The OP wasn't charged so we can assume not....
No you can't. I've issued far more bollockings than I have summonses.

tigger1

8,478 posts

252 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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anonymous said:
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BOF

991 posts

254 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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No excuse for the reaction...but I wonder if she was being instructed on getting to the contact position (as opposed to tailgating) then postioning for the overtake?

I spent ten minutes under coaching this morning when I COULD have overtaken a heavy - out, look, happy? - even if the overtake was ON, I learned a bit about positioning and gear/speed from moving back in and doing it a few times more.

Just a thought...

BOF.

Cooperman

4,428 posts

281 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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She probably had PMT. Did you ask her if that was her problem?

carrotchomper

18,331 posts

235 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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anonymous said:
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Listen to the evidence and decide who is most believable. It's not always who you would think either- I have lost a mobile phone use case at court when it was my word against the the motorist's.

chockymonster

658 posts

241 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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RaksP said:
well done again po-po! i wouldnt expect anything else!
Damned teletubbies get everywhere. Oh, did you mean police?

iLiekCarz

152 posts

234 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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Nervus said:
Travelling on a single carrageway with varying speed limits i.e. 60mph to 30mph through little towns etc then back up to 60mph I came upon a white Ford Focus with 'Police Driver Training' signs in the rear window. It had blue lights mounted on the roof but no other visable markers.

However as we continued to progress along the road at about 55 -60 mph we both came upon a slow moving HGV which was restricted to 40 mph. As I know this road reasonably well, I knew there was a suitable place for passing ahead in less than 1 mile.

Anyhow, the police training car whilst constantly tail-gating, kept weaving into the opposing lane for a look and then pulling back in when they either couldn't see enough of the road or there was another vehicle coming the other way.

When we got to a suitable passing place, what did they do? They stayed put, in-fact they didn't even bob out for a look. I actually waited a little while expecting them to pull out and pass but they didn't. So, I indicated, pulled out and passsed the procession with ease and no drama. Great I thought, a clear view, until said Focus comes screaming past with the lights and sirens going. I thought oh, they must be on a shout or something, but no they were after me and pulled me at the roadside.

I refused to get out of my car at the request of the lady police officer who turned out to be driving. She then proceeded to yell at me and said I needed a good telling off. It turns out, that I should have appreciated that she was 'under training' and had no right to pass them!

"Even though, you were sat at 40mph in a 60mph limit zone, 2ft of the back of a HGV with no chance of stopping in time if it braked etc etc?" I said.

That was it - she exploded, ranting that she was on duty and deemed my manouvre to be dangerous driving and she's going to "do me". At which point I burst out laughing which just made her even more irrate. She then went back to her car and got her collegue to start looking around my car and he started measuring my tyre depths and running some sort of check for insurance etc. The cars 3 months old, so you would think that the tyres would be in pretty good nick. They were obviusly clutching at straws to nick me for something and I was there for 10 mins.

To think that this shining example of attitude and aptitude of one of Northumbria's finest is going to be let loose in a Traffic car some day!
...

and then the police wonder why we all think they're a bunch of useless wits in uniform?

Report her, get the bitch sacked. No excuse for that attitude.

Edited by iLiekCarz on Thursday 2nd August 18:15