Good Observation = Some Leeway To Speed?
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Say one was exceeding the speed limit by some margin (e.g. 70 in a 40), but in reasonable safety (e.g. stupid speed limit, night time etc), and quite a few people attained those sorts of speeds at that time on that road. Say one went past a police car that was watching the traffic and in a position to follow whenever necessary. The police car is in a position where fairly good observation is required to notice it (e.g. up an urban on-slip which only becomes visible in the mirrors once past it). If one was to see the police car in this way when going past, and immediately scrub off the excess speed (subject of course to the usual mirror checks etc), would this in practice make the BiBs think "Well at least he's observing, so we'll stop someone who doesn't see us instead"? I realise that every BiB is different, but I just wanted to get a feel of the likelihood of such a decision.
Had to read that three times to make any sense of it, I hope it's not just me.
I would rather someone see me & slow down rather than continue to speed which suggests the driver is either taking the mick or isn't as aware as they think they are.
As for whether to stop or not it really does depend on speed & conditions.
I would rather someone see me & slow down rather than continue to speed which suggests the driver is either taking the mick or isn't as aware as they think they are.
As for whether to stop or not it really does depend on speed & conditions.
You have to do this every time - we only have to see you once.
minimac said:
Quick question, Plod sitting in car (alone) and you scream past at Mach 3. He is just looking out the windscreen, no VASCAR or gubbins.
Could he nick you? What happens if there were 2 BiB in the car?
Yes, without any measurement if two in the car.Could he nick you? What happens if there were 2 BiB in the car?
If only one in it, they would require some measurement.
GPSHead said:
Say one was exceeding the speed limit by some margin (e.g. 70 in a 40), but in reasonable safety (e.g. stupid speed limit, night time etc), and quite a few people attained those sorts of speeds at that time on that road. Say one went past a police car that was watching the traffic and in a position to follow whenever necessary. The police car is in a position where fairly good observation is required to notice it (e.g. up an urban on-slip which only becomes visible in the mirrors once past it). If one was to see the police car in this way when going past, and immediately scrub off the excess speed (subject of course to the usual mirror checks etc), would this in practice make the BiBs think "Well at least he's observing, so we'll stop someone who doesn't see us instead"? I realise that every BiB is different, but I just wanted to get a feel of the likelihood of such a decision.
Personally if I think you are taking the michael, you seeing me won't make any difference where I have sufficient evidence.vonhosen said:
GPSHead said:
Say one was exceeding the speed limit by some margin (e.g. 70 in a 40), but in reasonable safety (e.g. stupid speed limit, night time etc), and quite a few people attained those sorts of speeds at that time on that road. Say one went past a police car that was watching the traffic and in a position to follow whenever necessary. The police car is in a position where fairly good observation is required to notice it (e.g. up an urban on-slip which only becomes visible in the mirrors once past it). If one was to see the police car in this way when going past, and immediately scrub off the excess speed (subject of course to the usual mirror checks etc), would this in practice make the BiBs think "Well at least he's observing, so we'll stop someone who doesn't see us instead"? I realise that every BiB is different, but I just wanted to get a feel of the likelihood of such a decision.
Personally if I think you are taking the michael, you seeing me won't make any difference where I have sufficient evidence.Easier to deploy a scam van - reference Tomtom and scam signs - though these are in the equally unreasonable 50mph 'buffer' bit with the long clear straighter section with good visibility so can spot them lurking.
If they actually put police on that stretch then they might have been there to do something about the aggressive tailgater in a 4WD pickup that loomed up out of the distance whilst I was trying to overtake the nose-to-tail traffic doing 35 on the inside and keep to the daft limit for fear of scams. But I digress...
vonhosen said:
minimac said:
Quick question, Plod sitting in car (alone) and you scream past at Mach 3. He is just looking out the windscreen, no VASCAR or gubbins.
Could he nick you? What happens if there were 2 BiB in the car?
Yes, without any measurement if two in the car.Could he nick you? What happens if there were 2 BiB in the car?
If only one in it, they would require some measurement.
7db said:
vonhosen said:
minimac said:
Quick question, Plod sitting in car (alone) and you scream past at Mach 3. He is just looking out the windscreen, no VASCAR or gubbins.
Could he nick you? What happens if there were 2 BiB in the car?
Yes, without any measurement if two in the car.Could he nick you? What happens if there were 2 BiB in the car?
If only one in it, they would require some measurement.
The general rule of thumb is. Show a bit of respect for the law and generally you won't get a ticket.
Had a car pass me on the d/carriageway roadworks the other week. 50mph limit, approx 400 yards to go to the national sign and this muppet who has been travelling in lane 2 next to me suddenly decides to speed up to 70mph.
Best thing is I was in a marked traffic car.
Does he really think that the law doesn't apply to him or that i'll just think "oh cheeky monkey" and not stop him.
On the other hand I'm sat up doing speed enforcement checks on d/carriageway. Speed check a bike approaching, He see's me halfway through the check and reduces his speed considerably but comes in well over the limit. He raises one hand in acknowledgement and pulls striaght up to my car takes helmet off and walks up to my drivers window saying "fair cop mate". I didn't even have to move off.
A bit of respect shown for the law and a verbal warning issued.
At least show that you acknowledge the law and it might just show a bit of discretion.
Doesn't always work but give yourself half a chance.
Had a car pass me on the d/carriageway roadworks the other week. 50mph limit, approx 400 yards to go to the national sign and this muppet who has been travelling in lane 2 next to me suddenly decides to speed up to 70mph.
Best thing is I was in a marked traffic car.
Does he really think that the law doesn't apply to him or that i'll just think "oh cheeky monkey" and not stop him.
On the other hand I'm sat up doing speed enforcement checks on d/carriageway. Speed check a bike approaching, He see's me halfway through the check and reduces his speed considerably but comes in well over the limit. He raises one hand in acknowledgement and pulls striaght up to my car takes helmet off and walks up to my drivers window saying "fair cop mate". I didn't even have to move off.
A bit of respect shown for the law and a verbal warning issued.
At least show that you acknowledge the law and it might just show a bit of discretion.
Doesn't always work but give yourself half a chance.
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