Move over where? to let plod through
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I was sitting in a queue of traffic, duall carriageway, and perhaps 10 cars back from the traffic lights.
Panda car tries to make it's way down the middle of the two rows of queued cars.
The cars were doing very well to get out of the panda's way by mounting kerbs to the left, and central resevation to the right, just enought so the panda could get through.
Then he came behind me.
As I would only move over to the kerb, and not mount it, in order for him to get past, he gave me a reall crapola look when he finally got past me.
I had absolutly NO INTENTION AT ALL in attempting to mount a kerb with my 'vette.
As many will know, the Corvettes are low, and will easily damage the front spoiler, and unknown damage to tyres, and risk damaging alloy wheels.
He just had to wait.
Period.
I moved over as far as I could, and thats that.
Panda car tries to make it's way down the middle of the two rows of queued cars.
The cars were doing very well to get out of the panda's way by mounting kerbs to the left, and central resevation to the right, just enought so the panda could get through.
Then he came behind me.
As I would only move over to the kerb, and not mount it, in order for him to get past, he gave me a reall crapola look when he finally got past me.
I had absolutly NO INTENTION AT ALL in attempting to mount a kerb with my 'vette.
As many will know, the Corvettes are low, and will easily damage the front spoiler, and unknown damage to tyres, and risk damaging alloy wheels.
He just had to wait.
Period.
I moved over as far as I could, and thats that.
I don't have an issue with people in cars which can't physically move not moving. It's the ones in big 4x4's who sit there which annoy me slightly. Infact in a certain grim estate I spend a lot of time in they move into your path...
I try and plan my blue light runs to be safe, that includes not causing damage as well as injury.
If you couldn't move then you couldn't move. Fair enough.
I try and plan my blue light runs to be safe, that includes not causing damage as well as injury.
If you couldn't move then you couldn't move. Fair enough.
uk_vette said:
I was sitting in a queue of traffic, duall carriageway, and perhaps 10 cars back from the traffic lights.
Panda car tries to make it's way down the middle of the two rows of queued cars.
The cars were doing very well to get out of the panda's way by mounting kerbs to the left, and central resevation to the right, just enought so the panda could get through.
Then he came behind me.
As I would only move over to the kerb, and not mount it, in order for him to get past, he gave me a reall crapola look when he finally got past me.
I had absolutly NO INTENTION AT ALL in attempting to mount a kerb with my 'vette.
As many will know, the Corvettes are low, and will easily damage the front spoiler, and unknown damage to tyres, and risk damaging alloy wheels.
He just had to wait.
Period.
I moved over as far as I could, and thats that.
Agree completely. Will they pay for any damage? No.Panda car tries to make it's way down the middle of the two rows of queued cars.
The cars were doing very well to get out of the panda's way by mounting kerbs to the left, and central resevation to the right, just enought so the panda could get through.
Then he came behind me.
As I would only move over to the kerb, and not mount it, in order for him to get past, he gave me a reall crapola look when he finally got past me.
I had absolutly NO INTENTION AT ALL in attempting to mount a kerb with my 'vette.
As many will know, the Corvettes are low, and will easily damage the front spoiler, and unknown damage to tyres, and risk damaging alloy wheels.
He just had to wait.
Period.
I moved over as far as I could, and thats that.
Just remember how willing they'll be to help you if you're burgled.....
NobleGuy said:
uk_vette said:
I was sitting in a queue of traffic, duall carriageway, and perhaps 10 cars back from the traffic lights.
Panda car tries to make it's way down the middle of the two rows of queued cars.
The cars were doing very well to get out of the panda's way by mounting kerbs to the left, and central resevation to the right, just enought so the panda could get through.
Then he came behind me.
As I would only move over to the kerb, and not mount it, in order for him to get past, he gave me a reall crapola look when he finally got past me.
I had absolutly NO INTENTION AT ALL in attempting to mount a kerb with my 'vette.
As many will know, the Corvettes are low, and will easily damage the front spoiler, and unknown damage to tyres, and risk damaging alloy wheels.
He just had to wait.
Period.
I moved over as far as I could, and thats that.
Agree completely. Will they pay for any damage? No.Panda car tries to make it's way down the middle of the two rows of queued cars.
The cars were doing very well to get out of the panda's way by mounting kerbs to the left, and central resevation to the right, just enought so the panda could get through.
Then he came behind me.
As I would only move over to the kerb, and not mount it, in order for him to get past, he gave me a reall crapola look when he finally got past me.
I had absolutly NO INTENTION AT ALL in attempting to mount a kerb with my 'vette.
As many will know, the Corvettes are low, and will easily damage the front spoiler, and unknown damage to tyres, and risk damaging alloy wheels.
He just had to wait.
Period.
I moved over as far as I could, and thats that.
Just remember how willing they'll be to help you if you're burgled.....
I'd never jump up on the pavement.
I consider police to be the least important emergency service anyway. Nothing they are responding too is as important as what a fire engine or ambulance could be responding to.
Damaging my car bacause someone's nicked a car 2 miles away or some chavs had a beating isn't an option.
I consider police to be the least important emergency service anyway. Nothing they are responding too is as important as what a fire engine or ambulance could be responding to.
Damaging my car bacause someone's nicked a car 2 miles away or some chavs had a beating isn't an option.
paulsm said:
I'd never jump up on the pavement.
I consider police to be the least important emergency service anyway. Nothing they are responding too is as important as what a fire engine or ambulance could be responding to.
Damaging my car bacause someone's nicked a car 2 miles away or some chavs had a beating isn't an option.
I consider police to be the least important emergency service anyway. Nothing they are responding too is as important as what a fire engine or ambulance could be responding to.
Damaging my car bacause someone's nicked a car 2 miles away or some chavs had a beating isn't an option.
Tell that to the old lady I pulled out of a burning house last week. We were on scene 5 minutes before the crazy gang managed to put their cups of tea/volley ball/badminton racket down and leave the station.
paulsm said:
I'd never jump up on the pavement.
I consider police to be the least important emergency service anyway. Nothing they are responding too is as important as what a fire engine or ambulance could be responding to.
Damaging my car bacause someone's nicked a car 2 miles away or some chavs had a beating isn't an option.
I consider police to be the least important emergency service anyway. Nothing they are responding too is as important as what a fire engine or ambulance could be responding to.
Damaging my car bacause someone's nicked a car 2 miles away or some chavs had a beating isn't an option.
Unless of course he's on his way to pull a "member of an ethnic minority" off your mother
humour police said:
Mel you should know better
Better?
Mel please leave the Big Brother HouseEdited by mel on Friday 31st August 15:27
Greendubber said:
paulsm said:
I'd never jump up on the pavement.
I consider police to be the least important emergency service anyway. Nothing they are responding too is as important as what a fire engine or ambulance could be responding to.
Damaging my car bacause someone's nicked a car 2 miles away or some chavs had a beating isn't an option.
I consider police to be the least important emergency service anyway. Nothing they are responding too is as important as what a fire engine or ambulance could be responding to.
Damaging my car bacause someone's nicked a car 2 miles away or some chavs had a beating isn't an option.
Tell that to the old lady I pulled out of a burning house last week. We were on scene 5 minutes before the crazy gang managed to put their cups of tea/volley ball/badminton racket down and leave the station.
paulsm said:
I'd never jump up on the pavement.
I consider police to be the least important emergency service anyway. Nothing they are responding too is as important as what a fire engine or ambulance could be responding to.
Damaging my car bacause someone's nicked a car 2 miles away or some chavs had a beating isn't an option.
You may consider Police to be the least important emergency service, but we are regulary first on scene for all incidents be it criminal or not. I consider police to be the least important emergency service anyway. Nothing they are responding too is as important as what a fire engine or ambulance could be responding to.
Damaging my car bacause someone's nicked a car 2 miles away or some chavs had a beating isn't an option.
For example, I've helped a lady give birth in a car as there wasn't any ambulance to send- baby wasn't breathing at first until I started resus! Colleagues have pulled people out of burning houses before Trumpton got there.
Every day police save peoples lives, because we get informed of non police matters as the ambulance service and fire brigade know that we're more likely to get to something first due to us patrolling areas.
Get in the real world!
JM-S2K said:
paulsm said:
I'd never jump up on the pavement.
I consider police to be the least important emergency service anyway. Nothing they are responding too is as important as what a fire engine or ambulance could be responding to.
Damaging my car bacause someone's nicked a car 2 miles away or some chavs had a beating isn't an option.
You may consider Police to be the least important emergency service, but we are regulary first on scene for all incidents be it criminal or not. I consider police to be the least important emergency service anyway. Nothing they are responding too is as important as what a fire engine or ambulance could be responding to.
Damaging my car bacause someone's nicked a car 2 miles away or some chavs had a beating isn't an option.
For example, I've helped a lady give birth in a car as there wasn't any ambulance to send- baby wasn't breathing at first until I started resus! Colleagues have pulled people out of burning houses before Trumpton got there.
Every day police save peoples lives, because we get informed of non police matters as the ambulance service and fire brigade know that we're more likely to get to something first due to us patrolling areas.
Get in the real world!
Paul
Sorry mate, hadn't seen your previous remark before I posted mine.
I wouldn't risk damaging my car by trying to mount a (too) high kerb either. But I'd definately move as far as I could out of the way, because you never know what either emergency service is running to.
My comment was really focused on the "Nothing they are responding to..." comment.
Sorry mate, hadn't seen your previous remark before I posted mine.
I wouldn't risk damaging my car by trying to mount a (too) high kerb either. But I'd definately move as far as I could out of the way, because you never know what either emergency service is running to.
My comment was really focused on the "Nothing they are responding to..." comment.
Edited by JM-S2K on Friday 31st August 15:29
feet said:
Glassman said:
You put your spoiler before our boys' fish'n'chips? Tut, tut, tut.
nice one Earlier this month I was first on the scene at a double fatal on the M1. There were distraught witnessess and people who were involved as well as 2 very messy bodies all over lane 3. Being there on your own with everyone involved looking at you for help, having to absorb that emotion but stay professional yourself. Not important?
A nasty agravated burglary at an old couples house, working a 17 hours shift with a collegue just because you wanted to nab the offenders, and we did. Not important?
In the middle of all that we have to do all the paperwork and go to all the pointless neighbour disputes, we spend most of our time looking after people who can't look after themselves.
People who just sit back and say "oh well, they ust be late for tea" should grow up, stop talking so much crap and come and spend a day with an overstretched and stressed out copper.
It's not, at times, a nice job at all.
99.9% of the rank and file officers however, are people who are dedicated and just battle on through all the rubbish coming down from above. I'm proud of what I do.
Edited by thehappyotter on Friday 31st August 15:39
paulsm said:
I'd never jump up on the pavement.
I consider police to be the least important emergency service anyway. Nothing they are responding too is as important as what a fire engine or ambulance could be responding to.
Damaging my car bacause someone's nicked a car 2 miles away or some chavs had a beating isn't an option.
Engage Brain -> -> -> Think -> -> -> Type.I consider police to be the least important emergency service anyway. Nothing they are responding too is as important as what a fire engine or ambulance could be responding to.
Damaging my car bacause someone's nicked a car 2 miles away or some chavs had a beating isn't an option.
Unfortunately, it's the usual story here on PH.
The public are still losing more and more respect for the police. This is based on 2 points. One, the bad eggs amongst you - as rare as they are - give a bad impression which rubs off. Two, the political masters are the real problem. Because of false priorities like paperwork, the common man in the street is not receiving the service they deserve from the Police.
Personally I understand it's not the fault of rank and file - but I will always think twice before helping or calling the police (and I certainly won't cross a red light to move out of the way of an emergency vehicle, but that's another thread!!)
The public are still losing more and more respect for the police. This is based on 2 points. One, the bad eggs amongst you - as rare as they are - give a bad impression which rubs off. Two, the political masters are the real problem. Because of false priorities like paperwork, the common man in the street is not receiving the service they deserve from the Police.
Personally I understand it's not the fault of rank and file - but I will always think twice before helping or calling the police (and I certainly won't cross a red light to move out of the way of an emergency vehicle, but that's another thread!!)
thehappyotter said:
feet said:
Glassman said:
You put your spoiler before our boys' fish'n'chips? Tut, tut, tut.
nice one Earlier this month I was first on the scene at a double fatal on the M1. There were distraught witnessess and people who were involved as well as 2 very messy bodies all over lane 3. Being there on your own with everyone involved looking at you for help, having to absorb that emotion but stay professional yourself. Not important?
A nasty agravated burglary at an old couples house, working a 17 hours shift with a collegue just because you wanted to nab the offenders, and we did. Not important?
In the middle of all that we have to do all the paperwork and go to all the pointless neighbour disputes, we spend most of our time looking after people who can't look after themselves.
People who just sit back and say "oh well, they ust be late for tea" should grow up, stop talking so much crap and come and spend a day with an overstretched and stressed out copper.
It's not, at times, a nice job at all.
99.9% of the rank and file officers however, are people who are dedicated and just battle on through all the rubbish coming down from above. I'm proud of what I do.
Edited by thehappyotter on Friday 31st August 15:39
In the past year Ive had the police to my front door 3 times and they have been in the area a further 2 times (one involving theft of my property). Not once in dealing with them have I felt anything but sympathy for the crap they have to put up with. A bunch of 30 people (knobs) having a royal rumble outside the local pub... Teenagers stealing anything thats not nailed down seemingly imune to prosecution, joyriders rolling a car 30 meters into a wall where police were in pursuit and had the dogs/helicopter after them straight away.
Sure with regards to the theft they could have taken finger prints from what was left (there was even a witness) but it was teenagers, whats actually going to happen? There parents probably dont give a shit, the CPS arnt interested but the guy was sat in my living room for 30 minutes filling out paper work...!
Theres obviously a failing in the system but not at that level - surely having paper pushers in any industry/service doing work far abstracted from the job is a bad idea - doesnt stop the government from following this approach...
As for the look, maybe it was one of frustration, we're all human after all.
Sure with regards to the theft they could have taken finger prints from what was left (there was even a witness) but it was teenagers, whats actually going to happen? There parents probably dont give a shit, the CPS arnt interested but the guy was sat in my living room for 30 minutes filling out paper work...!
Theres obviously a failing in the system but not at that level - surely having paper pushers in any industry/service doing work far abstracted from the job is a bad idea - doesnt stop the government from following this approach...
As for the look, maybe it was one of frustration, we're all human after all.
Edited by polus on Friday 31st August 16:24
thehappyotter said:
99.9% of the rank and file officers however, are people who are dedicated and just battle on through all the rubbish coming down from above. I'm proud of what I do.
Isn't that the real issue? The amount of rubbish coming down from the top, the need to adhere to targets set up the the chain, the need to complete mountains of paperwork, which all conspires to keep the police officer off the street and in the police station.The outcome, particularly with the bad press which comes with targets etc, is the gradual erosion of public support, leading to the comments on here.
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