Smoking In Car? Without Due care & Attention?

[The Wiz]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/ne...

So ... will we see Police pulling thousands of people up for this? Or will it be like the phone ban almost ineffectual?

Edited by The Wiz on Friday 28th September 08:25

[Marki]

They will not be happy until they regulate everything will they

ing twunts

[ciderminx]

Just this week i've seen two people actually rolling up a fag while going down the motorway, i wouldn't normally care but one of them was in the middle lane going slightly slower than the lorries, the other was in the outside lane swerving around as though he was drunk!
I'm not sure if i want them to stop people smoking in cars or just clamp down on people sitting in the middle or outside lane making no progress.

[Marki]

ciderminx said:

Just this week i've seen two people actually rolling up a fag while going down the motorway,

Regulation will not work with that sort of person as they are just stupid s

[jwo]

soon manual gearboxes will be banned - you have to take your hand off steering wheel.....

[EU_Foreigner]

Makes sense to me. People have been done for drinking out of a bottle when stationary at a traffic light, so why not smoking?

[Boosted LS1]

So, is it an actual offence to smoke? I don't think it is.

If not then nothings really changed. Sure I'd agree that if you dropped a lit fag or some baccy in your lap and caused an accident you should be prosecuted.

[Munter]

Boosted LS1 said:

So, is it an actual offence to smoke? I don't think it is.

If not then nothings really changed. Sure I'd agree that if you dropped a lit fag or some baccy in your lap and caused an accident you should be prosecuted.

Thats the way it should be I think. If it's felt that smoking has been a contributary to a driver causing an accident then the driver should be accountable for causing that accident. So drinking/smoking/playing with satnav/punching children in the back seat to shut them up/eating an apple etc etc. All have nothing to do with driving the car, and if they cause the driving to fall below standards expected then the driver should be pulled over.

[Andy Pipkin]

It's quite simple really.

The only thing you should be doing behind the wheel of a car is DRIVING.

Let's see less texting, phone calls*, smoking, eating, drinking, reading, and not to mention the "something on the passenger seat" which seems to distract around 99% of ladies when they stop at traffic lights.

* As Mr T would say, quit that jibber jabber, foo'.

[10 Pence Short]

I found it strange they banned handheld mobile phone usage and not smoking.

With a mobile phone, the distraction is the conversation not holind a tiny piece of plastic. With smoking, you have to open a packet or tin, manoevre a delicate object from it, then set fire to it. Then you have to hold it, on fire, until you need to dispose of it.

If ever there was an object that presented a hazard whilst driving, I'd say a cigarette was higher up the list than many things.

[Munter]

Guam said:

Munter said:

Boosted LS1 said:

So, is it an actual offence to smoke? I don't think it is.

If not then nothings really changed. Sure I'd agree that if you dropped a lit fag or some baccy in your lap and caused an accident you should be prosecuted.

Thats the way it should be I think. If it's felt that smoking has been a contributary to a driver causing an accident then the driver should be accountable for causing that accident. So drinking/smoking/playing with satnav/punching children in the back seat to shut them up/eating an apple etc etc. All have nothing to do with driving the car, and if they cause the driving to fall below standards expected then the driver should be pulled over.

I tell you what I will give up smoking in the car when they pull down all the speed cameras which are a MUCH bigger distraction and cause accidents and near misses every single day!!!


Cheers

tom

err....you did realise I was on your side didn't you tom? If it affects your ability to drive to an acceptable standard you should be pulled. If not you should be left to carry on. Wether "it" is smoking or anything else.

[planetdave]

I can't see how they this won't be followed up. Last week (?timing) someone was convicted for touching their bluetooth earpiece. Smoking takes up much more hand-time.

Really it's always been illegal...there is no allowance for you to take your hands away from your driving activity in any way, only a quick scratch is allowable to effect driver relief otherwise you should stop.

So

changing gear = ok

changing radio station = stop the car.

[Munter]

planetdave said:

changing radio station = stop the car.

Steering wheel controls

[Dwight VanDriver]

Caught a few couples in the past, smoking in a car, whilst on nights. Not sure it there were accidents as I was not around 9 months later.........

dvd

[DBSV8]

Dwight VanDriver said:

Caught a few couples in the past, smoking in a car, whilst on nights. Not sure it there were accidents as I was not around 9 months later.........

dvd

[LoudPedal]

"Caught a few couples in the past, smoking in a car, whilst on nights. Not sure it there were accidents as I was not around 9 months later.........

dvd"

Perhaps you mistook that as a perfectly legal "quick scratch to effect driver relief"

[awager]

Boosted LS1 said:

So, is it an actual offence to smoke? I don't think it is.

If not then nothings really changed. Sure I'd agree that if you dropped a lit fag or some baccy in your lap and caused an accident you should be prosecuted.

NO, it is listed as a distraction as are other things.

IT is not banned, against the law, etc etc

[Boosted LS1]

Guam said:

Boosted LS1 said:

So, is it an actual offence to smoke? I don't think it is.

If not then nothings really changed. Sure I'd agree that if you dropped a lit fag or some baccy in your lap and caused an accident you should be prosecuted.

Can anyone point to where this may have happened ANYTIME in the UK. In 35 years of driving I have never heard of such an incident. I think most sensible people will disregard this further infingement on our freedoms.

Well Gorgon will be calling a snap election by all accounts shortly he will get his answer then I imagine

Cheers

I used to smoke and I've dropped a lit cigarette in my lap and it's quite frightening when it's a cloth seat cover. I've also had a butt end land on the rear seat and set fire to that! When it's burning near your cock you don't look at the road, let me tell you!

I'm not against people smoking in the car or using a phone in some circumstances and agree this has become a nanny state. The accidents from smoking or phoning are insignificant imo. Hospitals and kitchens are far more dangerous places to be but untaxable. Give labour the boot. I've had enough of them telling me what I can and can't do and how much it's going to cost me.

[WildCat]

It boil down to CONCENTRATION on road ahead. It a "should".. not a "must"!

What I not understand.. only 11ke them cyclists sign petition over helmet.cycle lane law.. it get dropped. we talk of just 11K vote here. It make drivers seem puerile here.

I never saw such a petition over the new 29 rules/.


I think it worth a mention that whole EU issue revised Highway Code at same time. I have copies of many EU revised codes from visit to HQ last week. (Kittens well cared for by the way )

I think it worth mentioning that EU revisions focus on stopping distances und all COAST skills for all on the road including cyclists und pedestrians. I buy all these last week on visit to HQ und my parents. There thus a difference in focus which perhaps explain why KSO reduce faster on continent now ..

[Big Fat F'r]

Guam said:

I think most sensible people will disregard this further infingement on our freedoms.

Well Gorgon will be calling a snap election by all accounts shortly he will get his answer then I imagine
Cheers

You're not suggesting that either:
A) Labour will lose
or
B) it will be a backlash against these so called infringements are you.

BFF