speeding in france
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I think the French and UK authorities are to get direct connection in the future so things will be different then.
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This is certainly the spin both the police and politicians put on it, but this is, at the moment, a pipe dream....and mainly because our neighbours do not roll over and accept rubbish as easily as we do.
For it will need a full and total agreement plus the same type of licence and points system everywhere. If we do not have this agreement ( and many countries do not have points systems ) then, especially the rebellious French will just say ' up yours, mate' to our police when they send them fines and points ' to kindly out on your French license, please'.
And as the French know, if we all refuse to co-operate, the system collapses and the law has to be changed to voice that of the majority.
Whatever ' ya can't put all the people in prison all the time ' is, in French!
Edited by peterguk on Sunday 30th September 19:03
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This is certainly the spin both the police and politicians put on it, but this is, at the moment, a pipe dream....and mainly because our neighbours do not roll over and accept rubbish as easily as we do.
For it will need a full and total agreement plus the same type of licence and points system everywhere. If we do not have this agreement ( and many countries do not have points systems ) then, especially the rebellious French will just say ' up yours, mate' to our police when they send them fines and points ' to kindly out on your French license, please'.
And as the French know, if we all refuse to co-operate, the system collapses and the law has to be changed to voice that of the majority.
Whatever ' ya can't put all the people in prison all the time ' is, in French!
It'll be a few years before there's any reciprocal agreement between the EC countries. I've often wondered if their camera partnerships might send the evidence to the ports to have the matter dealt with there, but that also seems a bit impractical.
My own recent driving experiences in France suggest to me that the relevant French authorities are getting a bit arsey about speeding. Their motorways are getting furnished with more and more cameras, although each one is preceded by a large unmissable sign, and the signs don't cry wolf. On the S/C roads they do not warn about camera positions, so care is required if you don't want them to flash.
I was more concerned by the increased presence of the gendarmes on S/C roads conducting completely covert road checks in areas where it was almost impossible to get down to the limit (unless warned).
Shooting fish in a barrel! (and it cost me 90 bloody euros
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My own recent driving experiences in France suggest to me that the relevant French authorities are getting a bit arsey about speeding. Their motorways are getting furnished with more and more cameras, although each one is preceded by a large unmissable sign, and the signs don't cry wolf. On the S/C roads they do not warn about camera positions, so care is required if you don't want them to flash.
I was more concerned by the increased presence of the gendarmes on S/C roads conducting completely covert road checks in areas where it was almost impossible to get down to the limit (unless warned).
Shooting fish in a barrel! (and it cost me 90 bloody euros
)Edited by iaha on Monday 1st October 09:28
I have just returned from France and they are clearly cracking down on speeding. However, it is not all bad.
A camera is always preceded by an enormous sign warning of its presence; and an enormous sign warning of the presence of a camera is always followed by one. No false alarms.
The gendarmes are relatively insouciant. On the autoroute (limit 130km/h), there is a sliding scale. Up to 158km/h and it is 45euros. Between 158km/h and 179km/h it is 90 euros. Over 179km/h and it is 135euros and bye-bye licence. Over 190km/h and the fine is 750euros. In otherwords, 100mph is a viable cruising speed with short blasts up to whatever you like when visibility allows.
No points. You will receive a warning which takes as long to dispense as a cigarette takes to smoke.
I was stopped at 166km/h (having been balked by slower traffic, I was returning to cruising speed when, too late, I saw the GDs in the bushes). The cars are all marked and very slow (Ford Focus estate in my case). The only place I saw them was in a 100km vicinity of Calais.
I have never had any comebacks from a speed camera flash. I suspect it will be too much bother for them, just as it is here.
There are persistent rumours that they sometimes use the toll system to take average speed readings over longer distances (most tickets are time stamped). However, it is very difficult, even in France, to average in excess on 110mph (90euros, keep your licence) and the risk can be further abated by using the credit card or telepeage booths to pay (no human intervention, no queues and a very quick transaction time, too quick for GD to intervene).
A camera is always preceded by an enormous sign warning of its presence; and an enormous sign warning of the presence of a camera is always followed by one. No false alarms.
The gendarmes are relatively insouciant. On the autoroute (limit 130km/h), there is a sliding scale. Up to 158km/h and it is 45euros. Between 158km/h and 179km/h it is 90 euros. Over 179km/h and it is 135euros and bye-bye licence. Over 190km/h and the fine is 750euros. In otherwords, 100mph is a viable cruising speed with short blasts up to whatever you like when visibility allows.
No points. You will receive a warning which takes as long to dispense as a cigarette takes to smoke.
I was stopped at 166km/h (having been balked by slower traffic, I was returning to cruising speed when, too late, I saw the GDs in the bushes). The cars are all marked and very slow (Ford Focus estate in my case). The only place I saw them was in a 100km vicinity of Calais.
I have never had any comebacks from a speed camera flash. I suspect it will be too much bother for them, just as it is here.
There are persistent rumours that they sometimes use the toll system to take average speed readings over longer distances (most tickets are time stamped). However, it is very difficult, even in France, to average in excess on 110mph (90euros, keep your licence) and the risk can be further abated by using the credit card or telepeage booths to pay (no human intervention, no queues and a very quick transaction time, too quick for GD to intervene).
r129sl said:
There are persistent rumours that they sometimes use the toll system to take average speed readings over longer distances (most tickets are time stamped).
Unless, they have changed their procedures, they only consult the time stamp if there has been an accident, in which average speed could be an indicator of an offence having contributed to it.r129sl said:
Up to 158km/h and it is 45euros. Between 158km/h and 179km/h it is 90 euros. Over 179km/h and it is 135euros and bye-bye licence. Over 190km/h and the fine is 750euros. In otherwords, 100mph is a viable cruising speed with short blasts up to whatever you like when visibility allows.
I think things changed in May/June this year.http://english.controleradar.org/speeding-fines.ph...
Although I had the same 90 Euro fine last year for 169kph, I think over 160 now and they can take your licence.
No problem if you have a spare driver to get you through France, but I don't.
r129sl said:
A camera is always preceded by an enormous sign warning of its presence; and an enormous sign warning of the presence of a camera is always followed by one. No false alarms.
The cars are all marked and very slow (Ford Focus estate in my case). The only place I saw them was in a 100km vicinity of Calais.
Did a 1,300+ mile round trip last month and only saw 2 marked cars by the side of the road in the whole journey. The first was about 30 mins south of Calais probably hoping to catch a few easy Brits. The second was full of 4 coppers all with their heads tilted back snoozing away. You could almost see the drool!!The cars are all marked and very slow (Ford Focus estate in my case). The only place I saw them was in a 100km vicinity of Calais.
As stated the fixed cameras are nicely marked and my SatNav had them all in.
Was gutted when we got back onto British roads.
My information is based on the printed document given to me by a nice policeman on 23 September 2007, helpfully provided in English only! Funnily enough they seemed only to be stopping English cars. Equally strange, they gave me no receipt. The document contains a map to the nearest cash machine(!) and clearly is based around the Bethune junction on the A26 peage, about 80km east of Calais. I advise caution within about 100km of Calais. After a European trip covering 3,300miles in a fortnight, this was the only place I saw any GDs.
It was my own fault attempting to break my fastest ever time from Paris to Calais.
It was my own fault attempting to break my fastest ever time from Paris to Calais.
Yep - on all my French travels, the only checks I have seen are around Paris and after the last turnoff direction Calais (i.e. there are only foreigners left on the road ...).
I do like those signs that show your license plate with the words "trop vitesse". Never have a camera ready for the occasion though
I do like those signs that show your license plate with the words "trop vitesse". Never have a camera ready for the occasion though
>>>>>>I have never had any comebacks from a speed camera flash. I suspect it will be too much bother for them, just as it is here.<<<<<<
I have been given to understand that as regards 'Foreign' vehicle index marks caught on camera speeding this is placed on their National Register for later action should it been seen again months later.
dvd
I have been given to understand that as regards 'Foreign' vehicle index marks caught on camera speeding this is placed on their National Register for later action should it been seen again months later.
dvd
As mentioned further down the French police have for the last few years taken a dim view of foreigners speeding on yr lovely empty autoroutes - the Gumball and the Cannonball events didn't do anything to help it - but they've always targeted foreign drivers during special events - MonacoGP - Le Mans
The way to avoid it, is to drive at night and avoid the "events"
blueyes said:
r129sl said:
Up to 158km/h and it is 45euros. Between 158km/h and 179km/h it is 90 euros. Over 179km/h and it is 135euros and bye-bye licence. Over 190km/h and the fine is 750euros. In otherwords, 100mph is a viable cruising speed with short blasts up to whatever you like when visibility allows.
Although I had the same 90 Euro fine last year for 169kph, I think over 160 now and they can take your licence. No problem if you have a spare driver to get you through France, but I don't.
Earned me a sticker from Dan at Hollographics though
Timmy2TARs said:
I was one of several pulled over on the way back from Le Mans this year - 175kph and a €750 fine, instant ban, no evidence presented.
To be fair, that's 175kmh in a 130 kmh limit.Just the 45 kmh over, then sir.
If you want to drive quickly, try further east.
200 kmh no problem - provided you maintain a safe
gap to the car in front.
I couldn't pass a Seat Ibiza doing 210 kmh in heavy
traffic a couple of weeks back.
Dwight VanDriver said:
>>>>>>I have never had any comebacks from a speed camera flash. I suspect it will be too much bother for them, just as it is here.<<<<<<
I have been given to understand that as regards 'Foreign' vehicle index marks caught on camera speeding this is placed on their National Register for later action should it been seen again months later.
dvd
Not really-there is a camera outside Lille on the E42 which I trigger on a regular basis and have heard nothing from le flicks I have been given to understand that as regards 'Foreign' vehicle index marks caught on camera speeding this is placed on their National Register for later action should it been seen again months later.
dvd
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