worst driver ever escapes jail term
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/702410...
I guess he wasnt speeding, driving a nice motor or looked like your average middle class bloke up to no good, if he was either of those three he would have had the book thrown at him.
I guess he wasnt speeding, driving a nice motor or looked like your average middle class bloke up to no good, if he was either of those three he would have had the book thrown at him.
£100 for no insurance, with a record like that, presumably as thats all he could pay.
Whereas a chum of mine, got nailed pretty unfairly with a due care charge and because he employed lots of people and created an economy and paid rather a lot of tax got lumbered with a £750 fine.
Quite unbelievable.
Whereas a chum of mine, got nailed pretty unfairly with a due care charge and because he employed lots of people and created an economy and paid rather a lot of tax got lumbered with a £750 fine.
Quite unbelievable.
Now the fine I don't care about - it's means tested so if you earn more you're fined more, tough shit.
BUT the ban? What the hell is the point of banning this guy? It clearly isn't a strong enough deterrent.
Electric shocks to his bo
ocks every Friday morning for a year. Double the dose each time he is re-caught. I think that should "cure" him.
BUT the ban? What the hell is the point of banning this guy? It clearly isn't a strong enough deterrent.
Electric shocks to his bo
ocks every Friday morning for a year. Double the dose each time he is re-caught. I think that should "cure" him.Article said a 25 year ban a while back, so he'll never drive legally again.
Presumably, as said above the fine is calculated to come out of his benefit, and the suspended sentence is there to try and stop him driving again, as the ban clearly hasnt worked.
What else would you suggest (aside from kicks in the face etc etc) Maybe a word to the boyos that he is arrested so often as he needs the time with the police to tout?
Presumably, as said above the fine is calculated to come out of his benefit, and the suspended sentence is there to try and stop him driving again, as the ban clearly hasnt worked.
What else would you suggest (aside from kicks in the face etc etc) Maybe a word to the boyos that he is arrested so often as he needs the time with the police to tout?
Plotloss said:
£100 for no insurance, with a record like that, presumably as thats all he could pay.
Whereas a chum of mine, got nailed pretty unfairly with a due care charge and because he employed lots of people and created an economy and paid rather a lot of tax got lumbered with a £750 fine.
Quite unbelievable.
I got 535 pound fine and 5 points for a SP30 in a 911 . . . alls fair though, hey ?Whereas a chum of mine, got nailed pretty unfairly with a due care charge and because he employed lots of people and created an economy and paid rather a lot of tax got lumbered with a £750 fine.
Quite unbelievable.
DucatiGary said:
tigger1 said:
Now the fine I don't care about - it's means tested so if you earn more you're fined more, tough shit.
isnt that called discrimination ?I thought so.
as you where
Stand by your beds..........No...........Carry On. 
Means testing enables the punishment to be same for people of differing wealths. Otherwise the wealthier you were the less of a punishment you would face.
Sheriff JWPepper said:
DucatiGary said:
tigger1 said:
Now the fine I don't care about - it's means tested so if you earn more you're fined more, tough shit.
isnt that called discrimination ?I thought so.
as you where
Stand by your beds..........No...........Carry On. Means testing enables the punishment to be same for people of differing wealths. Otherwise the wealthier you were the less of a punishment you would face.
where as the other guy probbably has several lines of income (ebay etc) whilst dodging the social services and at the end of the month has more free money than i did ?
so he gets punished less than me?
Sheriff JWPepper said:
Means testing enables the punishment to be same for people of differing wealths. Otherwise the wealthier you were the less of a punishment you would face.
IMO, the minimum penalty imposed for driving whilst uninsured should be the annual cost of the insurance premium being evaded at the time..DucatiGary said:
Sheriff JWPepper said:
DucatiGary said:
tigger1 said:
Now the fine I don't care about - it's means tested so if you earn more you're fined more, tough shit.
isnt that called discrimination ?I thought so.
as you where
Stand by your beds..........No...........Carry On. Means testing enables the punishment to be same for people of differing wealths. Otherwise the wealthier you were the less of a punishment you would face.
where as the other guy probbably has several lines of income (ebay etc) whilst dodging the social services and at the end of the month has more free money than i did ?
so he gets punished less than me?
Edited by vonhosen on Tuesday 2nd October 17:45
DucatiGary said:
Sheriff JWPepper said:
DucatiGary said:
tigger1 said:
Now the fine I don't care about - it's means tested so if you earn more you're fined more, tough shit.
isnt that called discrimination ?I thought so.
as you where
Stand by your beds..........No...........Carry On. Means testing enables the punishment to be same for people of differing wealths. Otherwise the wealthier you were the less of a punishment you would face.
where as the other guy probbably has several lines of income (ebay etc) whilst dodging the social services and at the end of the month has more free money than i did ?
so he gets punished less than me?
Why don't you give Norton Finance a call?
DucatiGary said:
I wasnt asked to show outgoings etc.
fortunatly for me, i made up the debt bit
just pointing out means testing doesnt work, if I wanted to show I earn nothing from my company its easily done
It's up to you to assist the court. The means testing is for your benefit.fortunatly for me, i made up the debt bit
just pointing out means testing doesnt work, if I wanted to show I earn nothing from my company its easily done
Of course if what you are saying doesn't add up, then they may be minded to ignore it.
DucatiGary said:
Plotloss said:
£100 for no insurance, with a record like that, presumably as thats all he could pay.
Whereas a chum of mine, got nailed pretty unfairly with a due care charge and because he employed lots of people and created an economy and paid rather a lot of tax got lumbered with a £750 fine.
Quite unbelievable.
I got 535 pound fine and 5 points for a SP30 in a 911 . . . alls fair though, hey ?Whereas a chum of mine, got nailed pretty unfairly with a due care charge and because he employed lots of people and created an economy and paid rather a lot of tax got lumbered with a £750 fine.
Quite unbelievable.
As a counterpoint There is the finnish guy the boss of nokia who got fined some stupendous amount for speeding... 116K euros for 75kph in a 50kph zone (47 in a 31) - now that is eye watering
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1759791.st...
SS2. said:
Sheriff JWPepper said:
Means testing enables the punishment to be same for people of differing wealths. Otherwise the wealthier you were the less of a punishment you would face.
IMO, the minimum penalty imposed for driving whilst uninsured should be the annual cost of the insurance premium being evaded at the time..
Twice the cost of insuring the vehicle since you last held insurance/17th birthday, whichever is earlier.
...or joint and several liability for all uninsured losses.
ill be honest, that 535 pound fine was water of a ducks back, ive spent more than that on women who dont want anything other than my drinks in one night.
so what did it teach me?
all, well apart from discrimination, but just like the guy whos been banned 46 times it a pretty sad state of affairs and the BiB on here seem to think they are doing well, dillusioned, you've heard of it (even if I cant spell it)
so what did it teach me?
all, well apart from discrimination, but just like the guy whos been banned 46 times it a pretty sad state of affairs and the BiB on here seem to think they are doing well, dillusioned, you've heard of it (even if I cant spell it)Edited by DucatiGary on Tuesday 2nd October 18:37
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