Number Plate Recognition
Number Plate Recognition
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Glassman

Original Poster:

25,076 posts

246 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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Despite the legal guidelines on the type of font that is permitted on number plates, there are still many cars that display 'illegal' plates. Can cameras (ANPR) still read those plates?


Brother Mycroft

843 posts

230 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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FishFace said:
To a degree. When the plates get silly the cameras struggle and are unable to. Human intervention is able to correct the reading but this is time consuming and not practical lots of the time e.g. when the person is driving driving.
Heaven forbid that cash gathering be encumbered with having to actually do some work for it.

rolleyes

^Slider^

2,874 posts

280 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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Brother Mycroft said:
FishFace said:
To a degree. When the plates get silly the cameras struggle and are unable to. Human intervention is able to correct the reading but this is time consuming and not practical lots of the time e.g. when the person is driving driving.
Heaven forbid that cash gathering be encumbered with having to actually do some work for it.

rolleyes
Whats ANPR got to do with "cash gathering". ANPR has not been used for speed. Unless you are refering to SPECS which is not the case in this thread?

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

275 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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VOSA recently trumpeted that they will not issue a Test Certificate to cars presented with a 'dicky' number plate. (i.e.one that doesn't conform to Regs).

dvd

DPX

1,027 posts

231 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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Yes but until this country gets tamper free screws and bolts on the plates the silly ones just go back on round the corner after the test.
Some of these plates just use black screw covers to convert C to O etc 2 second push on fit.

FiveStar

760 posts

235 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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DPX said:
Yes but until this country gets tamper free screws and bolts on the plates the silly ones just go back on round the corner after the test.
Some of these plates just use black screw covers to convert C to O etc 2 second push on fit.
and the posers in their 2007 models?? 3 years...

Brother Mycroft

843 posts

230 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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The reason is nothing to do with criminality, crims will walk 'round this law without even noticing it.

It's just another part of the cash gathering culture.

The state can pickpocket you without too much effort that way.

jambuster

28 posts

231 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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Brother Mycroft said:
The reason is nothing to do with criminality, crims will walk 'round this law without even noticing it.

It's just another part of the cash gathering culture.

The state can pickpocket you without too much effort that way.
Cash gathering? Pickpocket? Dont you tax, insure and MOT your vehicle?

It has everything to with criminality, thats why it picks up on stolen cars from the hot lists, vehicles marked as being used by criminals, uninsured vehicles, untaxed vehicles, vehicles which are not roadworthy.... I personally hate 'safety' cameras but ANPR is a world apart and has my full backing.

Just how will criminals walk around it?

Brother Mycroft

843 posts

230 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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It is pre-cursor for further charging... people don't learn from history... I applauded camera when they first arrived, they were going to be for catching red light jumpers... an outright lie to get them in for cash harvesting... ANPR is no different.

evolution666

310 posts

266 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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its all to big brother for my liking....

its being used to track you no matter what you think... That may seem trivial to some, but personally id rathernot be tracked watched or otherwise. Your being treat like a criminal

Cooperman

4,428 posts

281 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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Oh yes. Don't worry about your 'Carbon Footprint', worry about your 'Electronic Footprint'.

Brother Mycroft

843 posts

230 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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Cooperman said:
Oh yes. Don't worry about your 'Carbon Footprint', worry about your 'Electronic Footprint'.
It is like Halfords double swiping your card if you buy something... you watch... they are part of a pilot scheme, that second swipe is bad bad news.

'Electronic footprint', that is good, thankyou for that, I will use that in future.thumbup

Cooperman

4,428 posts

281 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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I'm trying to be lees 'electronically visible'. I pay for more things using cash, I turn my mobile off when travelling whenever that is practical, I don't buy on-line unless I have to, I don't let restaurants 'swipe' my card before I eat my meal and I pay with cash afterwards, I try to only use cash machines near to my home, I pay nothing by direct debit and I send a cheque by post to pay a bill whenever possible. In short, I'm getting paranoid! Is it a sign of old age?

evolution666

310 posts

266 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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Cooperman said:
I'm trying to be lees 'electronically visible'. I pay for more things using cash, I turn my mobile off when travelling whenever that is practical, I don't buy on-line unless I have to, I don't let restaurants 'swipe' my card before I eat my meal and I pay with cash afterwards, I try to only use cash machines near to my home, I pay nothing by direct debit and I send a cheque by post to pay a bill whenever possible. In short, I'm getting paranoid! Is it a sign of old age?
lol


i cant work out from that if your being serious lol


hope you are lol

Cooperman

4,428 posts

281 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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I am being serious, although I can't always manage it in practice. We are tracked by our electronic signature and that definately includes our credit/debit card useage, our on-line purchases, our mobile phone records, etc.
If we never used any of these we would be virtually invisible in society except when checked by ANPR. Someone who doesn't use cards, doesn't have a mobile phone and doesn't drive is almost invisible these days.
Personally I don't like all this surveillance and if I can avoid it just a little bit it will be worthwhile. I'm sure the criminals and terrorists are aware of all this, so the surveillance is, largely, useless for its intended purpose. For example, the crims know that mobles leave a 'footprint', so they use public call boxes whenever possible, or buy phones with pre-paid cards in false names.
If you were to buy a car abroad and use it, legally, in the UK, you would be even more immune to surveillance cameras.
I'm off home shortly. I am using an older car (in fact it's my son's rally car), will not have my phone on and will buy some petrol with cash. He lives in France and works in Germany, although the car is registered to an accommodation address in this country. Tonight, I'm truly electronically invisible. lol.

evolution666

310 posts

266 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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lol, nice one


on a slightly different note, the british ANPR system must differ from that used in the Isle of man. There is a real problem over here of UK car being untaxed, but the police cant check this with out direct calls to uk services...


so on the flip side to that, when im in the UK, im untraceable lol


though im probably not pmsl

peterguk

2,622 posts

248 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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DPX said:
Yes but until this country gets tamper free screws and bolts on the plates the silly ones just go back on round the corner after the test.
Some of these plates just use black screw covers to convert C to O etc 2 second push on fit.
Simple solution - make it an endorsble offence.

Brother Mycroft

843 posts

230 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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peterguk said:
DPX said:
Yes but until this country gets tamper free screws and bolts on the plates the silly ones just go back on round the corner after the test.
Some of these plates just use black screw covers to convert C to O etc 2 second push on fit.
Simple solution - make it an endorsble offence.
Never will be, it makes too much money!

By selling plates that can be made to look something else and actually charging a premium for them the Gov't are condoning and condemning at the same time.

Oh, what a world my parents gave me.

Bibs_

790 posts

238 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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Brother Mycroft said:
It is like Halfords double swiping your card if you buy something... you watch... they are part of a pilot scheme, that second swipe is bad bad news.
What's all that about then?

davidra

271 posts

268 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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If someone double-swipes your card, I would consider calling your bank or the police. This is a very common method of copying card details.

Of course, this "trial" may be legit, but normally this is something to watch out for.

dave

eta: in 2 different card machines

Edited by davidra on Monday 29th October 20:10